0008008: Idle dwarfs do not dump wood - Dwarf Fortress Bug Tracker

(0029036)
tacomagic (reporter)
2014-08-14 11:34

Did you also set them to haul ouside refuse? By default they are set to ignore outdoor refuse which also makes them ignore outdoor dumping orders.

(0029039)
Loci (manager)
2014-08-14 12:13

The wood is located in a tile marked "Inside", but the "Outside" refuse collection toggle actually controls whether "Above Ground" refuse is collected (0001140). Toggling the standing order to gather refuse from "Outside" got the dwarves to haul the wood up to the roof.

As an additional note, it is not necessary (and, in fact, rather dangerous) to "quantum stockpile" things by dropping them several z-levels. If you just designated the dump zone where you wanted the wood to end up, your dwarves would haul it there directly, without any chance of falling timber staving in your carpenter's cranium.

(0029040)
ptb_ptb (reporter)
2014-08-14 12:13

Wait, you mean they won't take refuse from inside to outside unless they also are set to take refuse from outside?

That sounds silly enough to be a bug in itself. :P

(0029042)
Loci (manager)
2014-08-14 12:22

No. They don't take refuse from "Above Ground" tiles unless the standing order to ignore "Outside" refuse is disabled. Yes, the confusing conflict between "Inside/Outside" and "Above Ground/Subterranean" is a bug, and is already reported as 0001140.

(0029045)
Footkerchief (manager)
2014-08-14 12:40

Sounds like this is cleared up, but please reopen if there's still a bug.

(0029522)
ptb_ptb (reporter)
2014-08-23 05:29
edited on: 2014-08-23 06:01

Not sure if this should be re-opened, or a new bug started.

Anyway, it's now "idle dwarves will not dump blocks". Orders are set NOT to ignore refuse outside, I have 6 idle dwarves with refuse hauling enabled and they are ignoring the dozen or so blocks I 'dumped' because I wanted them to be moved.

Save includes Pheobe's tiles, the plant fix changes and I've improved dwarf gait stats. Nothing that should affect this behavior, though.

Save file:
http://speedy.sh/v6JUQ/region2.zip [^]

(0029527)
Footkerchief (manager)
2014-08-23 08:28

They dumped the blocks after I canceled the wall construction jobs at the corners of the map. Something about those jobs is causing a hangup.

(0029531)
ptb_ptb (reporter)
2014-08-23 11:05

I think it may have something to do with changing stockpile areas after planning construction jobs?

(0035612)
Loci (manager)
2016-07-12 17:27

Dwarves won't dump items that are tasked for jobs. Those items do not show a TSK indication (0001027).

Issue History
Date Modified	Username	Field	Change
2014-08-14 11:12	ptb_ptb	New Issue
2014-08-14 11:34	tacomagic	Note Added: 0029036
2014-08-14 11:44	Footkerchief	Assigned To	=> Footkerchief
2014-08-14 11:44	Footkerchief	Status	new => needs feedback
2014-08-14 12:13	Loci	Note Added: 0029039
2014-08-14 12:13	ptb_ptb	Note Added: 0029040
2014-08-14 12:13	ptb_ptb	Status	needs feedback => assigned
2014-08-14 12:22	Loci	Note Added: 0029042
2014-08-14 12:40	Footkerchief	Note Added: 0029045
2014-08-14 12:40	Footkerchief	Status	assigned => resolved
2014-08-14 12:40	Footkerchief	Resolution	open => no change required
2014-08-23 05:29	ptb_ptb	Note Added: 0029522
2014-08-23 05:29	ptb_ptb	Status	resolved => needs feedback
2014-08-23 05:29	ptb_ptb	Resolution	no change required => reopened
2014-08-23 05:45	ptb_ptb	Note Edited: 0029522	View Revisions
2014-08-23 05:46	ptb_ptb	Note Edited: 0029522	View Revisions
2014-08-23 06:01	ptb_ptb	Note Edited: 0029522	View Revisions
2014-08-23 08:28	Footkerchief	Note Added: 0029527
2014-08-23 11:05	ptb_ptb	Note Added: 0029531
2014-08-23 11:05	ptb_ptb	Status	needs feedback => assigned
2016-07-12 17:27	Loci	Note Added: 0035612

Notes
(0029036) tacomagic (reporter) 2014-08-14 11:34	Did you also set them to haul ouside refuse? By default they are set to ignore outdoor refuse which also makes them ignore outdoor dumping orders.

(0029039) Loci (manager) 2014-08-14 12:13	The wood is located in a tile marked "Inside", but the "Outside" refuse collection toggle actually controls whether "Above Ground" refuse is collected (0001140). Toggling the standing order to gather refuse from "Outside" got the dwarves to haul the wood up to the roof. As an additional note, it is not necessary (and, in fact, rather dangerous) to "quantum stockpile" things by dropping them several z-levels. If you just designated the dump zone where you wanted the wood to end up, your dwarves would haul it there directly, without any chance of falling timber staving in your carpenter's cranium.

(0029040) ptb_ptb (reporter) 2014-08-14 12:13	Wait, you mean they won't take refuse from inside to outside unless they also are set to take refuse from outside? That sounds silly enough to be a bug in itself. :P

(0029042) Loci (manager) 2014-08-14 12:22	No. They don't take refuse from "Above Ground" tiles unless the standing order to ignore "Outside" refuse is disabled. Yes, the confusing conflict between "Inside/Outside" and "Above Ground/Subterranean" is a bug, and is already reported as 0001140.

(0029045) Footkerchief (manager) 2014-08-14 12:40	Sounds like this is cleared up, but please reopen if there's still a bug.

(0029522) ptb_ptb (reporter) 2014-08-23 05:29 edited on: 2014-08-23 06:01	Not sure if this should be re-opened, or a new bug started. Anyway, it's now "idle dwarves will not dump blocks". Orders are set NOT to ignore refuse outside, I have 6 idle dwarves with refuse hauling enabled and they are ignoring the dozen or so blocks I 'dumped' because I wanted them to be moved. Save includes Pheobe's tiles, the plant fix changes and I've improved dwarf gait stats. Nothing that should affect this behavior, though. Save file: http://speedy.sh/v6JUQ/region2.zip [^]

(0029527) Footkerchief (manager) 2014-08-23 08:28	They dumped the blocks after I canceled the wall construction jobs at the corners of the map. Something about those jobs is causing a hangup.

(0029531) ptb_ptb (reporter) 2014-08-23 11:05	I think it may have something to do with changing stockpile areas after planning construction jobs?

(0035612) Loci (manager) 2016-07-12 17:27	Dwarves won't dump items that are tasked for jobs. Those items do not show a TSK indication (0001027).

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