0008183: Overflowing magma seas/pools after unretire or reclaim.

(0029779)
Knight Otu (manager)
2014-08-29 12:30

Please upload a save (whole region folder) that demonstrates the magma sea overflowing to the DFFD ( http://dffd.wimbli.com/ [^] ) and post a link to it here.

(0029838)
Skaglicker (reporter)
2014-08-31 14:28

http://dffd.wimbli.com/file.php?id=9583 [^]

Sorry for the late reply.

Unretire the only inhabited fort. Magma sea is located in the caverns, right upper corner. Sea will overflow in about 10 minutes, varying by FPS.

(0030231)
Knight Otu (manager)
2014-09-17 09:36
edited on: 2014-09-17 09:39

I've neither seen this happen in the provided save, not in a specifically designed test case that runs faster for me (in case that my low fps in the provided save is the culprit), but there's been more reports that I've seen, so there may be more variables at work. What OS do you, or anyone who experienced this, use? How long between retiring the fortress and unretiring it? Do you use any utilities?

(0030397)
Chaia (reporter)
2014-09-27 05:33
edited on: 2014-09-27 05:40

Same happened to me. So still present in 40.13. Playing on Win7 64-bit
Steps to do that: Retire a fort with volcano, reclaim it.
Here is my save: http://dffd.wimbli.com/file.php?id=9800 [^]
The volcano used to be at the height of obsidian in the tube.
If you need more info, just ask!

edit: whoops, topic said unretire. I guess volcanos overflowing after reclaim is the same problem

(0030899)
MonkeyFacedPrickleBack (reporter)
2014-11-06 19:55

Bugged save here http://dffd.wimbli.com/file.php?id=10039 [^]

(0031920)
Footkerchief (manager)
2015-01-13 06:59

Another save at 0008730

(0036346)
Loci (manager)
2017-03-20 07:29

0.43.05: Hinaichigo posted a save in 0010165:

http://dffd.bay12games.com/file.php?id=12774 [^]

(0036472)
vipersting (reporter)
2017-04-26 15:42

While testing if a volcano would fill to a certain height, I somehow managed to stop the bug from triggering in some instances. The following save will have this bug a 42% of the time.

http://dffd.bay12games.com/file.php?id=12866 [^] [v0.43.05]

Before I started the construction, the bug occurred every time I unretired the fortress.

In the save I extended the volcano's height up to z = +50, I'm not sure if the building's height is stopping the bug or if it's something else. In the times the bug is triggered, the pipe will overflow the extended volcano.

(0038171)
Bobiloco (reporter)
2018-04-16 16:51

I had this happen to my recent fortress which was retired and reclaimed on 44.09. After patching the entire magma pipe with dfhack liquids and letting the flooded magma cool I found my dwarves would not path over the flooded areas. It is almost as if the units think the magma is still there.

http://dffd.bay12games.com/file.php?id=13685 [^]

(0038173)
Loci (manager)
2018-04-16 18:00

@Bobiloco: You'll need to enable temperature calculations if you want the previously-magma-flooded tiles to cool down. (0008391)

(0038177)
Bobiloco (reporter)
2018-04-17 10:21

@Loci Thanks, I went looking for 'magma flood impassable' bugs and didn't find anything before posting but this makes sense!

I can at least say that building up walls around the pipe to contain the magma crabs seems to have triggered the slow eruption upon reclaim.

Issue History
Date Modified	Username	Field	Change
2014-08-29 11:35	Skaglicker	New Issue
2014-08-29 12:30	Knight Otu	Note Added: 0029779
2014-08-29 12:30	Knight Otu	Assigned To	=> Knight Otu
2014-08-29 12:30	Knight Otu	Status	new => needs feedback
2014-08-31 14:28	Skaglicker	Note Added: 0029838
2014-08-31 14:28	Skaglicker	Status	needs feedback => assigned
2014-09-17 09:36	Knight Otu	Note Added: 0030231
2014-09-17 09:36	Knight Otu	Status	assigned => needs feedback
2014-09-17 09:38	Knight Otu	Relationship added	has duplicate 0008263
2014-09-17 09:39	Knight Otu	Note Edited: 0030231	View Revisions
2014-09-27 05:33	Chaia	Note Added: 0030397
2014-09-27 05:40	Chaia	Note Edited: 0030397	View Revisions
2014-11-06 10:23	Knight Otu	Relationship added	has duplicate 0008519
2014-11-06 10:23	Knight Otu	Issue Monitored: MonkeyFacedPrickleBack
2014-11-06 10:25	Knight Otu	Status	needs feedback => confirmed
2014-11-06 19:55	MonkeyFacedPrickleBack	Note Added: 0030899
2015-01-13 06:58	Footkerchief	Relationship added	has duplicate 0007632
2015-01-13 06:59	Footkerchief	Relationship added	has duplicate 0008730
2015-01-13 06:59	Footkerchief	Note Added: 0031920
2015-03-26 13:10	Knight Otu	Relationship added	has duplicate 0008873
2016-05-11 21:38	Dwarfu	Relationship added	has duplicate 0009338
2016-05-11 21:38	Dwarfu	Issue Monitored: Hedede
2017-03-19 13:45	Loci	Relationship added	has duplicate 0010168
2017-03-19 13:45	Loci	Issue Monitored: wooks
2017-03-19 13:48	Loci	Summary	Overflowing magma seas on unretire. => Overflowing magma seas/pools after unretire or reclaim.
2017-03-20 07:28	Loci	Relationship added	has duplicate 0010165
2017-03-20 07:29	Loci	Note Added: 0036346
2017-04-26 15:42	vipersting	Note Added: 0036472
2017-04-26 18:17	Huntthetroll	Issue Monitored: Huntthetroll
2017-12-09 20:16	Jessietail	Note Added: 0037274
2017-12-09 20:16	Jessietail	Note Deleted: 0037274
2018-04-16 16:51	Bobiloco	Note Added: 0038171
2018-04-16 18:00	Loci	Note Added: 0038173
2018-04-17 10:21	Bobiloco	Note Added: 0038177
2018-05-26 20:00	Dwarfu	Relationship added	has duplicate 0010772

Notes
(0029779) Knight Otu (manager) 2014-08-29 12:30	Please upload a save (whole region folder) that demonstrates the magma sea overflowing to the DFFD ( http://dffd.wimbli.com/ [^] ) and post a link to it here.

(0029838) Skaglicker (reporter) 2014-08-31 14:28	http://dffd.wimbli.com/file.php?id=9583 [^] Sorry for the late reply. Unretire the only inhabited fort. Magma sea is located in the caverns, right upper corner. Sea will overflow in about 10 minutes, varying by FPS.

(0030231) Knight Otu (manager) 2014-09-17 09:36 edited on: 2014-09-17 09:39	I've neither seen this happen in the provided save, not in a specifically designed test case that runs faster for me (in case that my low fps in the provided save is the culprit), but there's been more reports that I've seen, so there may be more variables at work. What OS do you, or anyone who experienced this, use? How long between retiring the fortress and unretiring it? Do you use any utilities?

(0030397) Chaia (reporter) 2014-09-27 05:33 edited on: 2014-09-27 05:40	Same happened to me. So still present in 40.13. Playing on Win7 64-bit Steps to do that: Retire a fort with volcano, reclaim it. Here is my save: http://dffd.wimbli.com/file.php?id=9800 [^] The volcano used to be at the height of obsidian in the tube. If you need more info, just ask! edit: whoops, topic said unretire. I guess volcanos overflowing after reclaim is the same problem

(0030899) MonkeyFacedPrickleBack (reporter) 2014-11-06 19:55	Bugged save here http://dffd.wimbli.com/file.php?id=10039 [^]

(0031920) Footkerchief (manager) 2015-01-13 06:59	Another save at 0008730

(0036346) Loci (manager) 2017-03-20 07:29	0.43.05: Hinaichigo posted a save in 0010165: http://dffd.bay12games.com/file.php?id=12774 [^]

(0036472) vipersting (reporter) 2017-04-26 15:42	While testing if a volcano would fill to a certain height, I somehow managed to stop the bug from triggering in some instances. The following save will have this bug a 42% of the time. http://dffd.bay12games.com/file.php?id=12866 [^] [v0.43.05] Before I started the construction, the bug occurred every time I unretired the fortress. In the save I extended the volcano's height up to z = +50, I'm not sure if the building's height is stopping the bug or if it's something else. In the times the bug is triggered, the pipe will overflow the extended volcano.

(0038171) Bobiloco (reporter) 2018-04-16 16:51	I had this happen to my recent fortress which was retired and reclaimed on 44.09. After patching the entire magma pipe with dfhack liquids and letting the flooded magma cool I found my dwarves would not path over the flooded areas. It is almost as if the units think the magma is still there. http://dffd.bay12games.com/file.php?id=13685 [^]

(0038173) Loci (manager) 2018-04-16 18:00	@Bobiloco: You'll need to enable temperature calculations if you want the previously-magma-flooded tiles to cool down. (0008391)

(0038177) Bobiloco (reporter) 2018-04-17 10:21	@Loci Thanks, I went looking for 'magma flood impassable' bugs and didn't find anything before posting but this makes sense! I can at least say that building up walls around the pipe to contain the magma crabs seems to have triggered the slow eruption upon reclaim.