0008250: Military dwarves won't attack goblins 99% of the time, and when they do they cause a loyalty cascade.

(0030004)
Timbohale (reporter)
2014-09-06 18:37

Have had same issue on my desktop PC, also running windows 7. This time it's a werelemur that they will all stand around and watch while it mauls my militia commander.

(0030005)
Loci (manager)
2014-09-06 18:47

Did the enemies dodge into or fall through empty space? When you issue a kill command, does the jobs screen show "(no reachable valid target)" for your soldiers?

(0030015)
Footkerchief (manager)
2014-09-07 11:21

Please upload a save that demonstrates the problem to http://dffd.wimbli.com/ [^] and post the link here.

(0030045)
BluePhoenix222 (reporter)
2014-09-08 18:29

http://dffd.wimbli.com/file.php?id=9650 [^]

Here is a link for a save where the bug is currently happening.

(0030114)
Timbohale (reporter)
2014-09-11 13:41

http://dffd.wimbli.com/file.php?id=9673 [^]

The linked save file should be attacked by a goblin siege very soon. If you issue any sort of move or kill command to the three military squads they should move to the indicated location and then stand around not attacking the goblins/enemies while being attacked themselves.

This is the first time I've uploaded a save, so if I made an error uploading please let me know.

(0030117)
Timbohale (reporter)
2014-09-11 16:49

http://dffd.wimbli.com/file.php?id=9675 [^]

This is another save file in which the military dwarves will not attack enemies. In this case, there is a cyclops actively engaged in mauling my civilians. The military dwarves will just stand around watching, no matter how often I issue any type of order, cancel and reissue orders, activate/inactivate the squad, etc. The only dwarves actually fighting the cyclops are some civilians he has attacked.

(0030308)
Kumquat (reporter)
2014-09-21 23:43

Also see 0008288 and 0008331.

(0030519)
Reflexion (reporter)
2014-10-03 13:15

I just got this problem (for the fifth time now) and I realized something strange: It seems speardwarves and markdwarves aren't affected but instead quite slow to react to orders.
Can someone else can confirm this?

(0030539)
muppet9876 (reporter)
2014-10-04 14:31
edited on: 2014-10-04 14:34

http://www.bay12games.com/dwarves/mantisbt/view.php?id=8342 [^]

More werebeast combat wierdness. I've not had the problem with goblins but last 2 worlds and forts(saves uploaded) werebeasts are unattackable in beast form but then get killed after transforming (if they don't run off the map first). Reproducibility has been always on these 2 saves.

(0030757)
Footkerchief (manager)
2014-10-27 11:48
edited on: 2014-10-27 11:49

0008436, izembaro: http://dffd.wimbli.com/file.php?id=9930 [^]
0008434, diqbudt: http://www.speedyshare.com/BmsV5/region1-00559-01-01.7z [^]

(0030821)
Tekkud the Farmer (reporter)
2014-11-01 04:58

http://dffd.wimbli.com/file.php?id=10011 [^]

I have the same bug happening here as well, world save linked.
Both my macedwarves and crossbowdwarves do not attack the blind cave ogre. The ogre has been caged and brought up from the caverns. I tried attacking it when chained, caged and free, all don't work. (And when free it started attacking my other dwarves. The military blocked and dodged but didn't retaliate, but my civilians reacted as usual.)

(0030835)
kicking jay (reporter)
2014-11-02 05:16

http://i.imgur.com/5fjhUMh.jpg [^]

It's really annoying. Entire squads will just stand around and defend until they are inevitably hit. But it's weird, it's not always the case.

http://redd.it/2isg15 [^]

(0030877)
vomov (reporter)
2014-11-05 08:04

Here's a save, with the issue happening in .40.14. Stationing close to the minotaur (on the surface, to the left) leads to the soldiers having no plan, giving an attack command leads to 'no valid reachable target'.

Save: http://dffd.wimbli.com/file.php?id=10031 [^]

(0031206)
Artarda (reporter)
2014-11-28 10:13

I too have had the issue happen in .40.18 and .40.19, two separate instances.

In the .40.18 game, a Cyclops meandered into my fortress and began murdering my livestock and hunters aboveground, so I sent out a squadron of Danger-room trained legendary soldiers. They then proceeded to walk around the Cyclops, actively dodging his attacks but not fighting or counterattacking in any way. They even watched the Cyclops murder a total of 15 random Urist McWimps, and stood around just dodging. I eventually put everyone underground and when the Merchants arrived a year later, their soldiers killed him. I noticed in the Report Log, my soldiers just stood around saying things like "I am attacked! I will have my revenge!"

In 40.19, a group of 9 Troglodytes came from the caverns and started attacking my Urist McWimps, so I sent out the legendaries again, and they just stood around. I sent War Dogs, and they fought at first, but eventually they just started standing around too. After about 4 months of just standing around and watching my Dwarves die I just gave up.

I too was getting the "No valid reachable target"

(0031693)
Toady One (administrator)
2015-01-04 13:59

Fixed a large cause of this. Feel free to reopen with saves if they don't work in 0.40.24+.

Issue History
Date Modified	Username	Field	Change
2014-09-05 20:35	Timbohale	New Issue
2014-09-06 18:37	Timbohale	Note Added: 0030004
2014-09-06 18:47	Loci	Note Added: 0030005
2014-09-07 11:21	Footkerchief	Note Added: 0030015
2014-09-07 11:21	Footkerchief	Assigned To	=> Footkerchief
2014-09-07 11:21	Footkerchief	Status	new => needs feedback
2014-09-08 18:29	BluePhoenix222	Note Added: 0030045
2014-09-11 13:41	Timbohale	Note Added: 0030114
2014-09-11 13:41	Timbohale	Status	needs feedback => assigned
2014-09-11 16:49	Timbohale	Note Added: 0030117
2014-09-21 23:43	Kumquat	Note Added: 0030308
2014-09-23 12:12	Footkerchief	Relationship added	has duplicate 0008331
2014-09-23 12:12	Footkerchief	Relationship added	related to 0008336
2014-09-23 12:15	Footkerchief	Relationship added	related to 0000481
2014-09-28 06:52	Footkerchief	Relationship added	related to 0003259
2014-09-28 06:54	Footkerchief	Relationship added	related to 0008367
2014-09-28 06:54	Footkerchief	Relationship added	related to 0008364
2014-10-03 13:15	Reflexion	Note Added: 0030519
2014-10-04 14:31	muppet9876	Note Added: 0030539
2014-10-04 14:32	muppet9876	Note Edited: 0030539	View Revisions
2014-10-04 14:34	muppet9876	Note Edited: 0030539	View Revisions
2014-10-08 06:00	NekoHatsu	Issue Monitored: NekoHatsu
2014-10-11 09:10	Footkerchief	Relationship added	has duplicate 0008408
2014-10-27 11:48	Footkerchief	Relationship added	has duplicate 0008436
2014-10-27 11:48	Footkerchief	Status	assigned => confirmed
2014-10-27 11:48	Footkerchief	Note Added: 0030757
2014-10-27 11:49	Footkerchief	Relationship added	has duplicate 0008434
2014-10-27 11:49	Footkerchief	Note Edited: 0030757	View Revisions
2014-11-01 04:58	Tekkud the Farmer	Note Added: 0030821
2014-11-01 23:08	Gooberslot	Issue Monitored: Gooberslot
2014-11-02 05:16	kicking jay	Note Added: 0030835
2014-11-05 08:04	vomov	Note Added: 0030877
2014-11-13 06:25	Footkerchief	Relationship deleted	related to 0008367
2014-11-28 10:13	Artarda	Note Added: 0031206
2014-12-19 06:40	Footkerchief	Relationship added	has duplicate 0008628
2014-12-27 19:23	Footkerchief	Relationship added	has duplicate 0000929
2014-12-27 19:23	Footkerchief	Issue Monitored: Hieronymous Alloy
2014-12-27 19:23	Footkerchief	Issue Monitored: C27
2014-12-28 18:34	lethosor	Relationship added	related to 0008367
2014-12-28 21:05	C27	Issue End Monitor: C27
2015-01-03 18:20	C27	Issue Monitored: C27
2015-01-04 13:59	Toady One	Note Added: 0031693
2015-01-04 13:59	Toady One	Status	confirmed => resolved
2015-01-04 13:59	Toady One	Fixed in Version	=> Next Version
2015-01-04 13:59	Toady One	Resolution	open => fixed
2015-01-04 13:59	Toady One	Assigned To	Footkerchief => Toady One
2015-01-07 23:19	C27	Issue End Monitor: C27
2015-03-29 22:07	Dwarfu	Relationship added	related to 0008885
2016-06-20 12:36	NekoHatsu	Issue End Monitor: NekoHatsu
2017-11-05 12:44	Loci	Relationship added	has duplicate 0008165

Notes
(0030004) Timbohale (reporter) 2014-09-06 18:37	Have had same issue on my desktop PC, also running windows 7. This time it's a werelemur that they will all stand around and watch while it mauls my militia commander.

(0030005) Loci (manager) 2014-09-06 18:47	Did the enemies dodge into or fall through empty space? When you issue a kill command, does the jobs screen show "(no reachable valid target)" for your soldiers?

(0030015) Footkerchief (manager) 2014-09-07 11:21	Please upload a save that demonstrates the problem to http://dffd.wimbli.com/ [^] and post the link here.

(0030045) BluePhoenix222 (reporter) 2014-09-08 18:29	http://dffd.wimbli.com/file.php?id=9650 [^] Here is a link for a save where the bug is currently happening.

(0030114) Timbohale (reporter) 2014-09-11 13:41	http://dffd.wimbli.com/file.php?id=9673 [^] The linked save file should be attacked by a goblin siege very soon. If you issue any sort of move or kill command to the three military squads they should move to the indicated location and then stand around not attacking the goblins/enemies while being attacked themselves. This is the first time I've uploaded a save, so if I made an error uploading please let me know.

(0030117) Timbohale (reporter) 2014-09-11 16:49	http://dffd.wimbli.com/file.php?id=9675 [^] This is another save file in which the military dwarves will not attack enemies. In this case, there is a cyclops actively engaged in mauling my civilians. The military dwarves will just stand around watching, no matter how often I issue any type of order, cancel and reissue orders, activate/inactivate the squad, etc. The only dwarves actually fighting the cyclops are some civilians he has attacked.

(0030308) Kumquat (reporter) 2014-09-21 23:43	Also see 0008288 and 0008331.

(0030519) Reflexion (reporter) 2014-10-03 13:15	I just got this problem (for the fifth time now) and I realized something strange: It seems speardwarves and markdwarves aren't affected but instead quite slow to react to orders. Can someone else can confirm this?

(0030539) muppet9876 (reporter) 2014-10-04 14:31 edited on: 2014-10-04 14:34	http://www.bay12games.com/dwarves/mantisbt/view.php?id=8342 [^] More werebeast combat wierdness. I've not had the problem with goblins but last 2 worlds and forts(saves uploaded) werebeasts are unattackable in beast form but then get killed after transforming (if they don't run off the map first). Reproducibility has been always on these 2 saves.

(0030757) Footkerchief (manager) 2014-10-27 11:48 edited on: 2014-10-27 11:49	0008436, izembaro: http://dffd.wimbli.com/file.php?id=9930 [^] 0008434, diqbudt: http://www.speedyshare.com/BmsV5/region1-00559-01-01.7z [^]

(0030821) Tekkud the Farmer (reporter) 2014-11-01 04:58	http://dffd.wimbli.com/file.php?id=10011 [^] I have the same bug happening here as well, world save linked. Both my macedwarves and crossbowdwarves do not attack the blind cave ogre. The ogre has been caged and brought up from the caverns. I tried attacking it when chained, caged and free, all don't work. (And when free it started attacking my other dwarves. The military blocked and dodged but didn't retaliate, but my civilians reacted as usual.)

(0030835) kicking jay (reporter) 2014-11-02 05:16	http://i.imgur.com/5fjhUMh.jpg [^] It's really annoying. Entire squads will just stand around and defend until they are inevitably hit. But it's weird, it's not always the case. http://redd.it/2isg15 [^]

(0030877) vomov (reporter) 2014-11-05 08:04	Here's a save, with the issue happening in .40.14. Stationing close to the minotaur (on the surface, to the left) leads to the soldiers having no plan, giving an attack command leads to 'no valid reachable target'. Save: http://dffd.wimbli.com/file.php?id=10031 [^]

(0031206) Artarda (reporter) 2014-11-28 10:13	I too have had the issue happen in .40.18 and .40.19, two separate instances. In the .40.18 game, a Cyclops meandered into my fortress and began murdering my livestock and hunters aboveground, so I sent out a squadron of Danger-room trained legendary soldiers. They then proceeded to walk around the Cyclops, actively dodging his attacks but not fighting or counterattacking in any way. They even watched the Cyclops murder a total of 15 random Urist McWimps, and stood around just dodging. I eventually put everyone underground and when the Merchants arrived a year later, their soldiers killed him. I noticed in the Report Log, my soldiers just stood around saying things like "I am attacked! I will have my revenge!" In 40.19, a group of 9 Troglodytes came from the caverns and started attacking my Urist McWimps, so I sent out the legendaries again, and they just stood around. I sent War Dogs, and they fought at first, but eventually they just started standing around too. After about 4 months of just standing around and watching my Dwarves die I just gave up. I too was getting the "No valid reachable target"

(0031693) Toady One (administrator) 2015-01-04 13:59	Fixed a large cause of this. Feel free to reopen with saves if they don't work in 0.40.24+.