0008573: Unsupported land not dropping (yes, cave-ins are enabled)

(0031114)
smjjames (reporter)
2014-11-22 06:55
edited on: 2014-11-22 06:57

Are you absolutely sure? Check above and below it for anything that might be connecting it.

Not sure if trees that have adjecant canopies would stop it from falling.

(0031115)
ptb_ptb (reporter)
2014-11-22 06:57
edited on: 2014-11-22 07:14

I<s>'m</s> was 99.8% sure. And I <s>have</s>did, several times.

Ah, there's an up stairway that I didn't think would provide support, but seeing as it hasn't collapsed, maybe it actually does. Whoops. I'll see if I can get rid of the bugger.

[EDIT] Update. It appears that the large lump of land has decided that it is actually unsupported and started dropping of its own accord. I had started work to break the upper stairs mentioned above, but not actually done so. It was possibly triggered into action when I built a small ramp and floor above where the upper stairs is (in preparation for dropping crap on it from above).

Incidentally, for those reading this interested in 'big splash' mechanics this again showed the 'chasm formation' behavior. Where giant lumps of rock dropped from above gain a one tile split through the middle.

(0031117)
ptb_ptb (reporter)
2014-11-22 07:19
edited on: 2014-11-22 07:33

Save file: http://dffd.wimbli.com/file.php?id=10110 [^]

You can probably get it to collapse by building a ramp, wall, and floor over the chasm on the left (one z up from ground level) above where the up stairs are.

[EDIT] All trees were cut down on left hand side of map.

(Posted wrong link)

(0031510)
ptb_ptb (reporter)
2014-12-27 09:30

I think this may be related to 0008555 Pathfinding not updated when trees cut down. If the land was supported by trees, but the trees were cut down, it may not be updating the 'supported/not supported' thing.

(0031643)
ptb_ptb (reporter)
2015-01-02 14:10

Also probably related to / duplicate of 0006949

(0031817)
ptb_ptb (reporter)
2015-01-09 06:54

I'm pretty sure this was 0006949 and is fixed.

(0031818)
Footkerchief (manager)
2015-01-09 07:29

Cool, thanks!

Issue History
Date Modified	Username	Field	Change
2014-11-22 06:42	ptb_ptb	New Issue
2014-11-22 06:55	smjjames	Note Added: 0031114
2014-11-22 06:57	ptb_ptb	Note Added: 0031115
2014-11-22 06:57	smjjames	Note Edited: 0031114	View Revisions
2014-11-22 07:02	ptb_ptb	Note Edited: 0031115	View Revisions
2014-11-22 07:14	ptb_ptb	Note Edited: 0031115	View Revisions
2014-11-22 07:19	ptb_ptb	Note Added: 0031117
2014-11-22 07:22	ptb_ptb	Note Edited: 0031117	View Revisions
2014-11-22 07:33	ptb_ptb	Note Edited: 0031117	View Revisions
2014-12-27 09:30	ptb_ptb	Note Added: 0031510
2014-12-27 09:33	lethosor	Additional Information Updated	View Revisions
2014-12-27 09:34	lethosor	Tag Attached: Save Included
2014-12-27 09:34	lethosor	Tag Attached: Save Needs Testing
2014-12-27 19:33	Footkerchief	Relationship added	related to 0008555
2015-01-02 14:10	ptb_ptb	Note Added: 0031643
2015-01-09 06:54	ptb_ptb	Note Added: 0031817
2015-01-09 07:29	Footkerchief	Note Added: 0031818
2015-01-09 07:29	Footkerchief	Relationship added	duplicate of 0006949
2015-01-09 07:29	Footkerchief	Status	new => resolved
2015-01-09 07:29	Footkerchief	Resolution	open => duplicate
2015-01-09 07:29	Footkerchief	Assigned To	=> Footkerchief

Notes
(0031114) smjjames (reporter) 2014-11-22 06:55 edited on: 2014-11-22 06:57	Are you absolutely sure? Check above and below it for anything that might be connecting it. Not sure if trees that have adjecant canopies would stop it from falling.

(0031115) ptb_ptb (reporter) 2014-11-22 06:57 edited on: 2014-11-22 07:14	I<s>'m</s> was 99.8% sure. And I <s>have</s>did, several times. Ah, there's an up stairway that I didn't think would provide support, but seeing as it hasn't collapsed, maybe it actually does. Whoops. I'll see if I can get rid of the bugger. [EDIT] Update. It appears that the large lump of land has decided that it is actually unsupported and started dropping of its own accord. I had started work to break the upper stairs mentioned above, but not actually done so. It was possibly triggered into action when I built a small ramp and floor above where the upper stairs is (in preparation for dropping crap on it from above). Incidentally, for those reading this interested in 'big splash' mechanics this again showed the 'chasm formation' behavior. Where giant lumps of rock dropped from above gain a one tile split through the middle.

(0031117) ptb_ptb (reporter) 2014-11-22 07:19 edited on: 2014-11-22 07:33	Save file: http://dffd.wimbli.com/file.php?id=10110 [^] You can probably get it to collapse by building a ramp, wall, and floor over the chasm on the left (one z up from ground level) above where the up stairs are. [EDIT] All trees were cut down on left hand side of map. (Posted wrong link)

(0031510) ptb_ptb (reporter) 2014-12-27 09:30	I think this may be related to 0008555 Pathfinding not updated when trees cut down. If the land was supported by trees, but the trees were cut down, it may not be updating the 'supported/not supported' thing.

(0031643) ptb_ptb (reporter) 2015-01-02 14:10	Also probably related to / duplicate of 0006949

(0031817) ptb_ptb (reporter) 2015-01-09 06:54	I'm pretty sure this was 0006949 and is fixed.

(0031818) Footkerchief (manager) 2015-01-09 07:29	Cool, thanks!