0001386: High boots weigh about 1/33 as much as low boots.

(0004413)
Footkerchief (manager)
2010-04-20 22:39

(0004416)
Zas (reporter)
2010-04-20 22:53

I think it's just a typo in raws. Should simply be the other way round.

(0004418)
PencilinHand (reporter)
2010-04-20 23:11

That is a negative there Zas, not a problem in the raws but something internal. The other items in item_shoes.txt derive their weight from LAYER_SIZE*DENSITY/75000. Plugging in the raw numbers for high boots results in a different weight number than the one reported in game.

Helm's appear to be somewhat similarly cursed. Items under item_helm.txt derive their weight from (layer size * material density)/60000 but a helm is just the material density / 1010(or something close to that).

I stumbled on the helm and high boots problem trying to derive the weight formulas for each item. I was somewhat surprised to find they weren't all consistent even within an item class. After weighing the degree of discrepancy I concluded they were bugs.

(0009618)
Footkerchief (manager)
2010-07-04 09:03

Reminder sent to: Toady One

Was this one fixed as well?

(0009619)
smjjames (reporter)
2010-07-04 09:09

Foot, maybe put a reminder on 0001009 since that one is related to weight and the same thing that was causing the weight bug with armor and clothing could have been fixed there as well?

(0009639)
Toady One (administrator)
2010-07-05 01:24

Ah, yeah, I was going to search for and mark these off today, since I fixed these problems without reference to a specific bug report. Thanks for hunting them down.

Issue History
Date Modified	Username	Field	Change
2010-04-20 22:25	PencilinHand	New Issue
2010-04-20 22:39	Footkerchief	Note Added: 0004413
2010-04-20 22:39	Footkerchief	Relationship added	child of 0000297
2010-04-20 22:49	foxbyte	Tag Attached: weight
2010-04-20 22:49	foxbyte	Tag Attached: Equipment
2010-04-20 22:53	Zas	Note Added: 0004416
2010-04-20 23:11	PencilinHand	Note Added: 0004418
2010-07-04 09:03	Footkerchief	Issue Monitored: Toady One
2010-07-04 09:03	Footkerchief	Note Added: 0009618
2010-07-04 09:09	smjjames	Note Added: 0009619
2010-07-05 01:24	Toady One	Note Added: 0009639
2010-07-05 01:24	Toady One	Status	new => resolved
2010-07-05 01:24	Toady One	Fixed in Version	=> 0.31.09
2010-07-05 01:24	Toady One	Resolution	open => fixed
2010-07-05 01:24	Toady One	Assigned To	=> Toady One

Notes
(0004413) Footkerchief (manager) 2010-04-20 22:39	See 0000297.

(0004416) Zas (reporter) 2010-04-20 22:53	I think it's just a typo in raws. Should simply be the other way round.

(0004418) PencilinHand (reporter) 2010-04-20 23:11	That is a negative there Zas, not a problem in the raws but something internal. The other items in item_shoes.txt derive their weight from LAYER_SIZEDENSITY/75000. Plugging in the raw numbers for high boots results in a different weight number than the one reported in game. Helm's appear to be somewhat similarly cursed. Items under item_helm.txt derive their weight from (layer size material density)/60000 but a helm is just the material density / 1010(or something close to that). I stumbled on the helm and high boots problem trying to derive the weight formulas for each item. I was somewhat surprised to find they weren't all consistent even within an item class. After weighing the degree of discrepancy I concluded they were bugs.

(0009618) Footkerchief (manager) 2010-07-04 09:03	Reminder sent to: Toady One Was this one fixed as well?

(0009619) smjjames (reporter) 2010-07-04 09:09	Foot, maybe put a reminder on 0001009 since that one is related to weight and the same thing that was causing the weight bug with armor and clothing could have been fixed there as well?

(0009639) Toady One (administrator) 2010-07-05 01:24	Ah, yeah, I was going to search for and mark these off today, since I fixed these problems without reference to a specific bug report. Thanks for hunting them down.