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IDProjectCategoryView StatusDate SubmittedLast Update
0002163Dwarf FortressDwarf Mode -- Buildings, Generalpublic2010-06-04 20:332014-09-05 07:43
ReporterDarthCloakedDwarf 
Assigned ToFootkerchief 
PrioritynormalSeverityminorReproducibilityalways
StatusconfirmedResolutionopen 
PlatformOSOS Version
Product Version0.31.04 
Target VersionFixed in Version 
Summary0002163: Objects dropped from above (such as stones from removed constructions) get stuck in fortifications
DescriptionOver time, I have been building a tower. Construction begins from the outdoor scaffold so I don't leave my fort vulnerable to flying invaders.

My fort design, built from the side, is as follows:
+ = Fortifications
_ = Floor
X = Stair

____________________X
+________X________+ X
+________X________+ X

As I build up, my design forces me to remove the constructed Floor over my Fortifications. The result is, the material falls into the Fortifications and cannot be retrieved except by the removal of the Fortifications.
Steps To ReproduceBuild a Construction directly above a Fortification.
Destroy the Construction.
Your building material will be stuck inside the Fortification.
Additional InformationThis is definitely related to 0002160, and probably caused by Fortifications not providing a Floor above them.
TagsNo tags attached.
Attached Files

- Relationships
related to 0002160resolvedFootkerchief Babies/infants stuck inside fortifications, can't be freed except by removing fortification 
related to 0002206new Floors deconstructed above windows leave components in open space, unreachable to dwarves 
has duplicate 0001384resolvedFootkerchief Stones from removed construction fall into fortifications 
has duplicate 0008131resolvedFootkerchief Items from deconstruction can land on unwalkable points and can't be removed from there 
has duplicate 0008343resolvedFootkerchief If a tree grows next to a fortification, some of the cut logs will land *in* the fortification 
related to 0002197acknowledgedLoci Corpse stuck on impassible/inaccessible workshop tile, can't be buried unless workshop is removed 
related to 0005709confirmedLoci If an animal gets stuck on an inpassable square of a workshop, a dwarf can get stuck trying to haul the animal away 
related to 0005907resolvedToady One Deconstruction results in falling blocks injuring dwarves 
related to 0006148new Channeled stone falls into constructed wall below 
related to 0008242new Interrupted buildings will scatter components to un-reachable tiles. 

-  Notes
(0007694)
Footkerchief (manager)
2010-06-04 21:39

 # Req134, FORTIFICATION OBJECT PROBLEMS, (Future): Lost projectiles in fortified squares can cause complications. You should be able to retrieve them somehow.

# Bloat294, CLEANING ADJACENT INACCESSIBLE SQUARES, (Future): There should be a way to clean chunks and other garbage out of fortifications or other places it gets stuck.
(0011869)
Ceaser57 (reporter)
2010-08-17 17:58

 I've also been having this issue in my fort with 31.12
I built walls, then carved into fortifications, 3 z levels on top of each other. When I decided to deconstruct a portion of it on the top level the stone fell through causing the square one level down to have both a stone and the fortification there, but the fortification no longer provides a floor above it like it did before.
(0011879)
Footkerchief (manager)
2010-08-17 22:21

 the fortification no longer provides a floor above it like it did before.

Pretty sure they never provided a floor.
(0012037)
Ceaser57 (reporter)
2010-08-23 06:22
edited on: 2010-08-23 06:30

 Walls that have been carved into fortifications don't have floors on top? My dwarves seem to walk on them just fine...

Here is a picture demonstrating this issue. http://i.imgur.com/4rXVm.png [^] [^]
The image on the right is 1 z-level above the image on the left. The two olivine stones and silver block dropped through when I deconstructed two walls and a ramp on the higher level.
(0024342)
TBeholder (reporter)
2014-01-24 03:11
edited on: 2014-01-24 03:15

 Fortifications that have been carved (whether out of a natural wall or constructed) have floors above, just like walls. Constructed ones don't.

The bug is here - falling and flow-moved objects (and babies) get stuck.

This means OP could circumvent it by building a wall instead, and carving fortification into it. You still get 2 jobs ("build, carve ... build, carve" instead of "remove, build ... remove, build"), and removal of constructed floor is also buggy, after all.
Unless having open top is necessary for some reason (let water in?) - which perhaps could be solved by building a "sink" elsewhere.
Aniother way to circumvent this bug is using a floor hatch (or grate) instead of that floor - these can be walked upon, block passage (though not for everything), and removed hatches are moved to the next tile, not allowed to fall.

Also, for some reason, an earlier ticket was marked as a duplicate of a later. Oh, well.
(0024343)
Footkerchief (manager)
2014-01-24 06:46

 Also, for some reason, an earlier ticket was marked as a duplicate of a later. Oh, well.

This report was more complete.

- Issue History
Date Modified Username Field Change
2010-06-04 20:33 DarthCloakedDwarf New Issue
2010-06-04 21:39 Footkerchief Relationship added related to 0002160
2010-06-04 21:39 Footkerchief Note Added: 0007694
2010-06-21 12:09 Footkerchief Relationship added related to 0002197
2010-08-17 17:58 Ceaser57 Note Added: 0011869
2010-08-17 22:21 Footkerchief Note Added: 0011879
2010-08-23 06:22 Ceaser57 Note Added: 0012037
2010-08-23 06:29 Ceaser57 Note Added: 0012039
2010-08-23 06:29 Ceaser57 Note Deleted: 0012039
2010-08-23 06:30 Ceaser57 Note Edited: 0012037 View Revisions
2011-03-03 08:53 Footkerchief Relationship added has duplicate 0001384
2011-03-03 08:53 Footkerchief Summary Objects dropped from above get stuck in Fortifications. => Objects dropped from above (such as stones from removed constructions) get stuck in Fortifications.
2011-03-03 08:54 Footkerchief Summary Objects dropped from above (such as stones from removed constructions) get stuck in Fortifications. => Objects dropped from above (such as stones from removed constructions) get stuck in fortifications
2011-03-03 13:52 Khym Chanur Issue Monitored: Khym Chanur
2012-03-28 09:56 Footkerchief Relationship added related to 0005709
2012-05-17 07:06 Footkerchief Relationship added related to 0005907
2012-08-05 09:24 Knight Otu Relationship added related to 0006148
2014-01-21 18:44 Footkerchief Relationship added related to 0002206
2014-01-24 03:11 TBeholder Note Added: 0024342
2014-01-24 03:15 TBeholder Note Edited: 0024342 View Revisions
2014-01-24 06:46 Footkerchief Note Added: 0024343
2014-08-23 19:52 Footkerchief Relationship added has duplicate 0008131
2014-09-05 07:43 Footkerchief Assigned To => Footkerchief
2014-09-05 07:43 Footkerchief Status new => confirmed
2014-09-05 07:44 Footkerchief Relationship added related to 0008242
2014-09-24 19:17 Footkerchief Relationship added has duplicate 0008343
2018-04-16 10:25 Huntthetroll Issue Monitored: Huntthetroll

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