0000302: Domestic animals (cats/dogs/cows/etc) spamming "Cancels Clean Self: Area Inaccessable"

(0000649)
DoctorZuber (reporter)
2010-04-03 13:54

0000179 0000207

Cats is new though.

(0000707)
GauHelldragon (reporter)
2010-04-03 16:27

I tried locking away the soap in a room cats couldn't get with a pet-restricted door. Cats contsntly keep bumping into the door, trying to get in, but the annoucnments has stopped.

(0001535)
Rafal99 (reporter)
2010-04-06 11:18

I just got "Cow cancels Clean Self: Caged" message.
No soap anywhere in my fortress, the cow was apparently bringed back to cage after milking.

(0001557)
foxbyte (reporter)
2010-04-06 12:50

I get this bug as well; the cats are dragging extra soap all over the fortress in an attempt to clean themselves. Perhaps just making the mouth grasp soap isn't enough for the creature to clean themselves?

(0001711)
Langdon (reporter)
2010-04-07 03:20

I also changed soap from glob to bar, and likewise, am getting this for all pets, children, and dwarves. I put soap bars in a custom stockpile (with no bins) beside my two wells.

(Z)oom to location on the "cancels Clean Self" error will zoom to one of the soap bars I have in the stockpiles.

I believe it is different from the "Insane baby" error, as it is showing up for most of my fortress population.

(0002325)
oliver (reporter)
2010-04-09 07:55

Also seen here, for both war dogs and dwarves, on 0.31.02. Original save was from 0.31.01, with new raws copied in from .02. It only started once I produced soap, and it stopped immediately when I forbid all soap.

(0002427)
Langdon (reporter)
2010-04-09 14:44

I can confirm this bug is still present in 0.31.02 (new game genned on 0.31.02). Once at least one bar of soap is produced (and is not locked by hospital) pets will pick soap up in their mouths and carry it around the fortress, while spamming "cancels Clean Self: Area inaccessible".

Apperance of this spam seems to also coincide with the appearance of the crash on save (during "cleaning objects" phase) in http://www.bay12games.com/dwarves/mantisbt/view.php?id=277 [^]

(0002996)
Shadowlord (reporter)
2010-04-12 00:29

I'm getting constant spam from cows, cats, bulls, puppies, you name it, I'm getting it. The animals are stealing soap from the stockpile inside the hospital (because I put the only stockpile there so it would get moved into the hospital containers faster), carrying it outside, dropping it, and the dwarves are moving it back to the stockpile, where the animals are stealing it again, causing massive waste of labor. This has been happening since I produced more soap than the hospital needed in 0.31.02.

(0002999)
antoniod (reporter)
2010-04-12 00:53

I also have this, vanilla 0.31.02, no self made modification.

(0003019)
Mneh (reporter)
2010-04-12 03:34

Got this aswell, completely destroys my messages screen.

(0003020)
Leperous (reporter)
2010-04-12 03:39
edited on: 2010-04-12 03:40

I have a war elephant trying to clean itself using soap - which kinda makes sense?! - interestingly the soap isn't always listed as a task on the workshop screen, and locking a door and forbidding the soap didn't prevent it from trying. Sometimes he'd walk into the hospital and try the same.

Then when I stopped pets from entering the hospital it seemed to get the message and cleaned itself up at the well instead.

(0003831)
JimboOmega (reporter)
2010-04-16 05:42

I have dwarves spamming this themselves. In addition to cats and other animals

It is creating the soap bar issue - where people take them out of the hospital and then they put them back.

This in 31.03

(0003937)
Granite26 (reporter)
2010-04-16 20:42
edited on: 2010-04-17 05:28

Edit -- Comment removed for being generally untrue

(0003976)
JimboOmega (reporter)
2010-04-17 06:55

My save got this with dwarves as well - one such message will generate almost immediately after saving, and the log is full of animals doing it.

http://dffd.wimbli.com/file.php?id=2127 [^]

Interestingly enough it also crashes on cleaning objects, *and* will crash about a minute after starting (along with other bugs named in the save)

(0004166)
teethering (reporter)
2010-04-18 19:52

Definitely seems to be related to soap. As soon as soap appeared in the fortress the spam began from the roaming hoard of pets.

(0004193)
HammerDave (reporter)
2010-04-18 23:56

I just witnessed something that I think might be the cause of the problem.

Noticed a "bar" symbol moving out of the fortress, apparently by itself. Hit K in time to see what it was -- a bar of soap. Dropped out of K planning to go to V to see what was carrying it, and a dwarf came up, grabbed it, and carried it back to the stockpile. There was an immediate cancel notice for a dog, which was apparently carrying the soap.

The bug appears to be that bars in use for cleaning (or in transit) are not recorded as such. The next idle dwarf gets a job to return the bar to the stockpile.

Unfortunately no save or screenshot, it happened too fast.

(0004941)
Trowzers (reporter)
2010-04-24 20:08

This seems to be a related issue, but my Dwarven traders are also trying to grab my soap (although I was not getting any messages, so I took me a while to realise what they were doing - initially I thought it was a pathing issue until I noticed they were hauling soap). I had to lock my soap stockpile doors to get them to leave. The merchant who had already managed to grap a bar then stopped yo-yoing back and forth near the soap stockpile and finally headed back to the depot so that the traders (who I had fortunately already trading with) could pack up and leave. He appears to be taking the already-hauled soap with him though! Shortly after this the game crashes (happened 3-4 times now), but this occurs before the soap-theiving merchant leaves the screen so it may be unrelated (I'm investigating whether it's an item-melting related crash but have the save if anyone wants it).

(0004947)
Geocat (reporter)
2010-04-24 21:15

It seems whenever I activate my burrows and the pets follow everyone in,they start spamming this. I dont have soap in this fortress yet either.

(0005812)
Jiri Petru (reporter)
2010-05-01 05:21

I'm experiencing the same with my bugged dwarves - ie. military dwarves who due to a different bug got stuck on "No job".

(0006261)
Jimmy (reporter)
2010-05-06 04:34

Related to 0000996

(0007003)
jgoodwin (reporter)
2010-05-19 00:13

repro in 31.03, *no soap*

After playing the game through 3 years I suddenly have this. I do not have and never had have any soap, or soap maker's workshops. I am getting it for Cows and Mountain Goats (Tame). About the only thing that happened recently related to that is I finally captured a female mountain goat, tamed her and have just chained her out by the male I captured in year 1.

(0007120)
Shaggy Frog (reporter)
2010-05-20 21:53

Still happens in 31.04. Announcement spam is the worst part.

(0007122)
MaXMC (reporter)
2010-05-21 01:11

I just got "Reg Mafolkified Dwarven Baby cancels Clean Self: Too insane"
I guess he/she became insane when the mother dug a channel from the wrong way and dropped one z-level. The mother is now in the hospital and the baby is crawling around my fortress all alone.

(0007571)
Toady One (administrator)
2010-06-02 03:30

I've handled the animal/baby issues for 0.31.05. Dwarf issues will be hanging out in 0001023 or wherever else they crop up.

Issue History
Date Modified	Username	Field	Change
2010-04-03 13:52	GauHelldragon	New Issue
2010-04-03 13:54	DoctorZuber	Note Added: 0000649
2010-04-03 16:27	GauHelldragon	Note Added: 0000707
2010-04-05 22:36	Footkerchief	Relationship added	has duplicate 0000567
2010-04-06 11:18	Rafal99	Note Added: 0001535
2010-04-06 12:50	foxbyte	Note Added: 0001557
2010-04-07 03:20	Langdon	Note Added: 0001711
2010-04-08 23:16	Footkerchief	Relationship added	has duplicate 0000856
2010-04-09 07:55	oliver	Note Added: 0002325
2010-04-09 14:44	Langdon	Note Added: 0002427
2010-04-12 00:29	Shadowlord	Note Added: 0002996
2010-04-12 00:29	Shadowlord	Issue Monitored: Shadowlord
2010-04-12 00:53	antoniod	Note Added: 0002999
2010-04-12 03:34	Mneh	Note Added: 0003019
2010-04-12 03:39	Leperous	Note Added: 0003020
2010-04-12 03:40	Leperous	Note Edited: 0003020	View Revisions
2010-04-12 04:03	themel	Issue Monitored: themel
2010-04-14 00:01	antoniod	Issue Monitored: antoniod
2010-04-15 08:53	Footkerchief	Relationship added	has duplicate 0001197
2010-04-15 10:18	bloodystump	Issue Monitored: bloodystump
2010-04-15 17:32	Lac	Tag Attached: soap
2010-04-15 17:33	Lac	Tag Attached: clean self
2010-04-16 05:42	JimboOmega	Note Added: 0003831
2010-04-16 20:42	Granite26	Note Added: 0003937
2010-04-17 05:28	Granite26	Note Edited: 0003937	View Revisions
2010-04-17 06:55	JimboOmega	Note Added: 0003976
2010-04-18 19:52	teethering	Note Added: 0004166
2010-04-18 23:56	HammerDave	Note Added: 0004193
2010-04-19 03:43	Anarchy69	Issue Monitored: Anarchy69
2010-04-19 18:34	Footkerchief	Relationship added	has duplicate 0001347
2010-04-19 18:34	Footkerchief	Summary	Cats spamming "Cancel Clean Self: Area Inaccessable" => Domestic animals (cats/dogs/cows/etc) spamming "Cancel Clean Self: Area Inaccessable"
2010-04-19 18:34	Footkerchief	Summary	Domestic animals (cats/dogs/cows/etc) spamming "Cancel Clean Self: Area Inaccessable" => Domestic animals (cats/dogs/cows/etc) spamming "Cancels Clean Self: Area Inaccessable"
2010-04-19 18:34	Footkerchief	Sticky Issue	No => Yes
2010-04-24 20:08	Trowzers	Note Added: 0004941
2010-04-24 21:15	Geocat	Note Added: 0004947
2010-05-01 05:21	Jiri Petru	Note Added: 0005812
2010-05-02 15:31	Logical2u	Relationship added	has duplicate 0000528
2010-05-02 15:31	Logical2u	Issue Monitored: darkfred
2010-05-02 15:32	Logical2u	Relationship added	related to 0001701
2010-05-02 18:50	Khym Chanur	Issue Monitored: Khym Chanur
2010-05-03 12:26	Footkerchief	Relationship added	parent of 0001023
2010-05-03 12:26	Footkerchief	Relationship replaced	parent of 0001701
2010-05-03 12:27	Footkerchief	Relationship replaced	related to 0001701
2010-05-06 04:34	Jimmy	Note Added: 0006261
2010-05-06 08:46	Footkerchief	Relationship added	related to 0000996
2010-05-06 08:46	Footkerchief	Relationship deleted	related to 0001701
2010-05-07 09:24	Suzuran	Issue Monitored: Suzuran
2010-05-17 11:09	Footkerchief	Relationship added	parent of 0001919
2010-05-19 00:13	jgoodwin	Note Added: 0007003
2010-05-20 21:53	Shaggy Frog	Note Added: 0007120
2010-05-21 01:11	MaXMC	Note Added: 0007122
2010-05-26 15:51	whotfoot	Issue Monitored: whotfoot
2010-06-02 03:23	Toady One	Relationship replaced	related to 0001023
2010-06-02 03:30	Toady One	Note Added: 0007571
2010-06-02 03:30	Toady One	Status	new => resolved
2010-06-02 03:30	Toady One	Fixed in Version	=> 0.31.05
2010-06-02 03:30	Toady One	Resolution	open => fixed
2010-06-02 03:30	Toady One	Assigned To	=> Toady One
2010-06-02 12:37	bloodystump	Issue End Monitor: bloodystump
2010-06-02 13:07	Footkerchief	Sticky Issue	Yes => No
2010-06-03 16:46	Suzuran	Issue End Monitor: Suzuran
2010-06-04 13:21	Khym Chanur	Issue End Monitor: Khym Chanur
2010-06-09 06:45	Toady One	Status	resolved => closed
2011-03-31 15:22	Footkerchief	Relationship added	has duplicate 0000832

Notes
(0000649) DoctorZuber (reporter) 2010-04-03 13:54	0000179 0000207 Cats is new though.

(0000707) GauHelldragon (reporter) 2010-04-03 16:27	I tried locking away the soap in a room cats couldn't get with a pet-restricted door. Cats contsntly keep bumping into the door, trying to get in, but the annoucnments has stopped.

(0001535) Rafal99 (reporter) 2010-04-06 11:18	I just got "Cow cancels Clean Self: Caged" message. No soap anywhere in my fortress, the cow was apparently bringed back to cage after milking.

(0001557) foxbyte (reporter) 2010-04-06 12:50	I get this bug as well; the cats are dragging extra soap all over the fortress in an attempt to clean themselves. Perhaps just making the mouth grasp soap isn't enough for the creature to clean themselves?

(0001711) Langdon (reporter) 2010-04-07 03:20	I also changed soap from glob to bar, and likewise, am getting this for all pets, children, and dwarves. I put soap bars in a custom stockpile (with no bins) beside my two wells. (Z)oom to location on the "cancels Clean Self" error will zoom to one of the soap bars I have in the stockpiles. I believe it is different from the "Insane baby" error, as it is showing up for most of my fortress population.

(0002325) oliver (reporter) 2010-04-09 07:55	Also seen here, for both war dogs and dwarves, on 0.31.02. Original save was from 0.31.01, with new raws copied in from .02. It only started once I produced soap, and it stopped immediately when I forbid all soap.

(0002427) Langdon (reporter) 2010-04-09 14:44	I can confirm this bug is still present in 0.31.02 (new game genned on 0.31.02). Once at least one bar of soap is produced (and is not locked by hospital) pets will pick soap up in their mouths and carry it around the fortress, while spamming "cancels Clean Self: Area inaccessible". Apperance of this spam seems to also coincide with the appearance of the crash on save (during "cleaning objects" phase) in http://www.bay12games.com/dwarves/mantisbt/view.php?id=277 [^]

(0002996) Shadowlord (reporter) 2010-04-12 00:29	I'm getting constant spam from cows, cats, bulls, puppies, you name it, I'm getting it. The animals are stealing soap from the stockpile inside the hospital (because I put the only stockpile there so it would get moved into the hospital containers faster), carrying it outside, dropping it, and the dwarves are moving it back to the stockpile, where the animals are stealing it again, causing massive waste of labor. This has been happening since I produced more soap than the hospital needed in 0.31.02.

(0002999) antoniod (reporter) 2010-04-12 00:53	I also have this, vanilla 0.31.02, no self made modification.

(0003019) Mneh (reporter) 2010-04-12 03:34	Got this aswell, completely destroys my messages screen.

(0003020) Leperous (reporter) 2010-04-12 03:39 edited on: 2010-04-12 03:40	I have a war elephant trying to clean itself using soap - which kinda makes sense?! - interestingly the soap isn't always listed as a task on the workshop screen, and locking a door and forbidding the soap didn't prevent it from trying. Sometimes he'd walk into the hospital and try the same. Then when I stopped pets from entering the hospital it seemed to get the message and cleaned itself up at the well instead.

(0003831) JimboOmega (reporter) 2010-04-16 05:42	I have dwarves spamming this themselves. In addition to cats and other animals It is creating the soap bar issue - where people take them out of the hospital and then they put them back. This in 31.03

(0003937) Granite26 (reporter) 2010-04-16 20:42 edited on: 2010-04-17 05:28	Edit -- Comment removed for being generally untrue

(0003976) JimboOmega (reporter) 2010-04-17 06:55	My save got this with dwarves as well - one such message will generate almost immediately after saving, and the log is full of animals doing it. http://dffd.wimbli.com/file.php?id=2127 [^] Interestingly enough it also crashes on cleaning objects, and will crash about a minute after starting (along with other bugs named in the save)

(0004166) teethering (reporter) 2010-04-18 19:52	Definitely seems to be related to soap. As soon as soap appeared in the fortress the spam began from the roaming hoard of pets.

(0004193) HammerDave (reporter) 2010-04-18 23:56	I just witnessed something that I think might be the cause of the problem. Noticed a "bar" symbol moving out of the fortress, apparently by itself. Hit K in time to see what it was -- a bar of soap. Dropped out of K planning to go to V to see what was carrying it, and a dwarf came up, grabbed it, and carried it back to the stockpile. There was an immediate cancel notice for a dog, which was apparently carrying the soap. The bug appears to be that bars in use for cleaning (or in transit) are not recorded as such. The next idle dwarf gets a job to return the bar to the stockpile. Unfortunately no save or screenshot, it happened too fast.

(0004941) Trowzers (reporter) 2010-04-24 20:08	This seems to be a related issue, but my Dwarven traders are also trying to grab my soap (although I was not getting any messages, so I took me a while to realise what they were doing - initially I thought it was a pathing issue until I noticed they were hauling soap). I had to lock my soap stockpile doors to get them to leave. The merchant who had already managed to grap a bar then stopped yo-yoing back and forth near the soap stockpile and finally headed back to the depot so that the traders (who I had fortunately already trading with) could pack up and leave. He appears to be taking the already-hauled soap with him though! Shortly after this the game crashes (happened 3-4 times now), but this occurs before the soap-theiving merchant leaves the screen so it may be unrelated (I'm investigating whether it's an item-melting related crash but have the save if anyone wants it).

(0004947) Geocat (reporter) 2010-04-24 21:15	It seems whenever I activate my burrows and the pets follow everyone in,they start spamming this. I dont have soap in this fortress yet either.

(0005812) Jiri Petru (reporter) 2010-05-01 05:21	I'm experiencing the same with my bugged dwarves - ie. military dwarves who due to a different bug got stuck on "No job".

(0006261) Jimmy (reporter) 2010-05-06 04:34	Related to 0000996

(0007003) jgoodwin (reporter) 2010-05-19 00:13	repro in 31.03, no soap After playing the game through 3 years I suddenly have this. I do not have and never had have any soap, or soap maker's workshops. I am getting it for Cows and Mountain Goats (Tame). About the only thing that happened recently related to that is I finally captured a female mountain goat, tamed her and have just chained her out by the male I captured in year 1.

(0007120) Shaggy Frog (reporter) 2010-05-20 21:53	Still happens in 31.04. Announcement spam is the worst part.

(0007122) MaXMC (reporter) 2010-05-21 01:11	I just got "Reg Mafolkified Dwarven Baby cancels Clean Self: Too insane" I guess he/she became insane when the mother dug a channel from the wrong way and dropped one z-level. The mother is now in the hospital and the baby is crawling around my fortress all alone.

(0007571) Toady One (administrator) 2010-06-02 03:30	I've handled the animal/baby issues for 0.31.05. Dwarf issues will be hanging out in 0001023 or wherever else they crop up.