0003166: All sorts of weirdness with freezing oceans in adventure mode

(0012462)
shoshomiga (reporter)
2010-09-06 21:09

Also uploaded the save here: http://dffd.wimbli.com/file.php?id=3071 [^]

(0012475)
Dwarfu (manager)
2010-09-07 04:32

Keep the report focused on the bug part of the report. For all of the "I think" and "Please add" portions, please discuss them on the suggestions forum: http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?board=5.0 [^]

(0018532)
onarum (reporter)
2011-08-16 11:37
edited on: 2011-08-24 20:12

Yes, I can confirm this does indeed happens, but in my case it's the opposite, trying to get from a small island where the character spawned to the main land, after a while walking in the frozen oceans the ice walls start to appear and my fps goes to hell, the more I advance the worse the fps gets, it looks like a memory leak or maybe superfluous loops that take to long to break.

I uploaded my save as well here http://www.multiupload.com/Y46OEI5B2U, [^] just keep walking west and it will start happening, also it's a SDL save running the genesis mod, I'm on a PC with windows 7 64bit.

(0021641)
LegendarySurgeon (reporter)
2012-03-21 11:34

I am experiencing these ocean ice walls in the most recent, vanilla version.

(0021892)
Kogut (reporter)
2012-03-29 23:53

related to 0001653: Ocean Ice Sheets unstable.

(0023698)
caldfir (reporter)
2012-10-31 21:22

The "game coming to a crawl" thing probably isn't related to the ocean being frozen. If you make an adventurer with a decent swimming skill and just head out to sea you'll get the same slowdowns to happen once you reach deep water. My best guess is that that having a large number of loaded water tiles, frozen or not, is not playing nice with adventure mode.

I can confirm the ice walls/chasms and things though. Easy to duplicate, have it happen all the time.

(0023699)
kwieland (reporter)
2012-11-01 05:05

Actually, I'm inclined to think the game really did come to a crawl, probably as all the temperature code crunched away. It could be machine dependent, and a newer processor might not stall (FPS wise) as much as an older one.

(0027114)
Knight Otu (manager)
2014-07-21 03:37

smjjames posted a 40.03 save at 0007528.

(0027135)
smjjames (reporter)
2014-07-21 07:28

Yeah, got encased in ice at once point. Tried slapping flight onto humans so my adventurer could fly, but it was so laggy and I was significantly far into the ocean that I decided to just kill the adventurer.

(0030734)
Firfi (reporter)
2014-10-26 06:11

Maybe something with weather also. Once I crossed such ocean and found two icewall 'squares' appeared near each other with one tile gap. My dwarf climbed it down and it eventually leads to underground ocean (around 50 levels). What is especially peculiar when I climbed down I had a chance to observe perhaps forming of these ice (it seems _cubes_). They're forming from steam which I presume drops fps. So it looks like an issue of giant steam cubes appearing in middle of ocean or as _heat_, I mean 'sunny weather' cubes that actually melts ice making it steam so it goes to ice again little while later.

(0037568)
lethosor (manager)
2018-01-09 08:43
edited on: 2018-01-09 08:44

Confirmed in the 0.40.03 save above.

Issue History
Date Modified	Username	Field	Change
2010-09-06 20:41	shoshomiga	New Issue
2010-09-06 21:09	shoshomiga	Note Added: 0012462
2010-09-07 04:32	Dwarfu	Note Added: 0012475
2010-09-07 04:32	Dwarfu	Tag Attached: Save Included
2010-09-07 04:34	Dwarfu	Relationship added	child of 0002673
2011-08-16 11:37	onarum	Note Added: 0018532
2011-08-16 11:38	onarum	Note Edited: 0018532	View Revisions
2011-08-24 20:12	onarum	Note Edited: 0018532	View Revisions
2012-03-21 11:34	LegendarySurgeon	Note Added: 0021641
2012-03-29 23:53	Kogut	Note Added: 0021892
2012-10-31 21:22	caldfir	Note Added: 0023698
2012-11-01 05:05	kwieland	Note Added: 0023699
2014-07-21 03:37	Knight Otu	Relationship added	has duplicate 0007528
2014-07-21 03:37	Knight Otu	Note Added: 0027114
2014-07-21 07:28	smjjames	Note Added: 0027135
2014-08-04 09:37	Footkerchief	Relationship added	related to 0005694
2014-10-26 06:11	Firfi	Note Added: 0030734
2018-01-09 08:37	lethosor	Relationship added	has duplicate 0010506
2018-01-09 08:37	lethosor	Tag Attached: 0.44.03
2018-01-09 08:38	lethosor	Additional Information Updated	View Revisions
2018-01-09 08:39	lethosor	Additional Information Updated	View Revisions
2018-01-09 08:42	lethosor	Additional Information Updated	View Revisions
2018-01-09 08:43	lethosor	Note Added: 0037568
2018-01-09 08:43	lethosor	Assigned To	=> lethosor
2018-01-09 08:43	lethosor	Status	new => confirmed
2018-01-09 08:44	lethosor	Note Edited: 0037568	View Revisions

Notes
(0012462) shoshomiga (reporter) 2010-09-06 21:09	Also uploaded the save here: http://dffd.wimbli.com/file.php?id=3071 [^]

(0012475) Dwarfu (manager) 2010-09-07 04:32	Keep the report focused on the bug part of the report. For all of the "I think" and "Please add" portions, please discuss them on the suggestions forum: http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?board=5.0 [^]

(0018532) onarum (reporter) 2011-08-16 11:37 edited on: 2011-08-24 20:12	Yes, I can confirm this does indeed happens, but in my case it's the opposite, trying to get from a small island where the character spawned to the main land, after a while walking in the frozen oceans the ice walls start to appear and my fps goes to hell, the more I advance the worse the fps gets, it looks like a memory leak or maybe superfluous loops that take to long to break. I uploaded my save as well here http://www.multiupload.com/Y46OEI5B2U, [^] just keep walking west and it will start happening, also it's a SDL save running the genesis mod, I'm on a PC with windows 7 64bit.

(0021641) LegendarySurgeon (reporter) 2012-03-21 11:34	I am experiencing these ocean ice walls in the most recent, vanilla version.

(0021892) Kogut (reporter) 2012-03-29 23:53	related to 0001653: Ocean Ice Sheets unstable.

(0023698) caldfir (reporter) 2012-10-31 21:22	The "game coming to a crawl" thing probably isn't related to the ocean being frozen. If you make an adventurer with a decent swimming skill and just head out to sea you'll get the same slowdowns to happen once you reach deep water. My best guess is that that having a large number of loaded water tiles, frozen or not, is not playing nice with adventure mode. I can confirm the ice walls/chasms and things though. Easy to duplicate, have it happen all the time.

(0023699) kwieland (reporter) 2012-11-01 05:05	Actually, I'm inclined to think the game really did come to a crawl, probably as all the temperature code crunched away. It could be machine dependent, and a newer processor might not stall (FPS wise) as much as an older one.

(0027114) Knight Otu (manager) 2014-07-21 03:37	smjjames posted a 40.03 save at 0007528.

(0027135) smjjames (reporter) 2014-07-21 07:28	Yeah, got encased in ice at once point. Tried slapping flight onto humans so my adventurer could fly, but it was so laggy and I was significantly far into the ocean that I decided to just kill the adventurer.

(0030734) Firfi (reporter) 2014-10-26 06:11	Maybe something with weather also. Once I crossed such ocean and found two icewall 'squares' appeared near each other with one tile gap. My dwarf climbed it down and it eventually leads to underground ocean (around 50 levels). What is especially peculiar when I climbed down I had a chance to observe perhaps forming of these ice (it seems _cubes_). They're forming from steam which I presume drops fps. So it looks like an issue of giant steam cubes appearing in middle of ocean or as _heat_, I mean 'sunny weather' cubes that actually melts ice making it steam so it goes to ice again little while later.

(0037568) lethosor (manager) 2018-01-09 08:43 edited on: 2018-01-09 08:44	Confirmed in the 0.40.03 save above.