0000482: Tame exotic pets don't show up in the Animals screen

(0001105)
Footkerchief (manager)
2010-04-05 10:05
edited on: 2010-04-05 10:05

What happened when you tried to mark them for slaughter? In what manner did it fail?

(0001118)
Qloos (reporter)
2010-04-05 10:57

Reproducible on my end. The animals simply don't show up on the Z animal list, and can't be butchered from there.

(0001139)
Footkerchief (manager)
2010-04-05 11:52

Hmm. Does it work if they're first removed from their cages?

(0001176)
damocles (reporter)
2010-04-05 13:05

I have the same issue - you can slaughter them by using 'v'-'p' and set ready to slaughter, but they don't show up in the animals stock listing. Missing animals I have are:
hoary marmot, cougar, black bear. All 3 are wandering around my fort, and are can be slaughtered through 'v'-'p' but not through 'z'-animals.

(0001370)
Khym Chanur (reporter)
2010-04-06 00:32

I noticed that (at least before the animals are bought from the Elves) that the caged animals the Elves bring show up under the units list as "Merchant". Maybe that has something to do with it.

(0001375)
Footkerchief (manager)
2010-04-06 00:54

SL in IRC says that this happens for animals that can't be tamed. I haven't verified that myself.

(0001709)
AbuDhabi (reporter)
2010-04-07 03:01

However, the unbutcherable animals I bought were listed as 'tame'. They were not possible to tame from the kennel menu - not showing up on there, even.

(0002633)
monk12 (reporter)
2010-04-10 13:23
edited on: 2010-04-10 13:25

I also experience this problem, where some animals show up in the animal stock listing and others do not. Tame absentees include a pair of Foxes, Warthogs, Buzzards, raccoons, and an alligator, cougar, and turtle. An untamed raccoon also fails to appear. Curiously, although all the expected domestic animals appear they are also joined by the blue jay, cardinal, and hedgehog (vermin all), but not the turtle.

Although butchering is still possible by selecting individual critters, none of the absentees can be made pets. Will see whether the presence of the Dungeon Master returns the animals to the screen.

(0002671)
kaefermelder (reporter)
2010-04-10 16:18
edited on: 2010-04-10 17:26

Funny. I have 4 black bears, all show up. + 1 grizzly bear. blue jay, hedgehog are on the list, turtle is missing. All other animals I traded are missing: muskox, deer, foxes, groundhog, wolves, buzzards, rhesus macaques, elk, warthog, alligator. Animals from immigration show up fine.

Muskox roams, rest in cage. All marked tame. No change now after releasing them.

(0003402)
Holy Mittens (reporter)
2010-04-13 22:11

I believe this happens for animals that are exotic pets. The elves will bring them, but the exotic ones will be listed as simply, say Alligator (Tame) as opposed to Stray Alligator (Tame).

(0003484)
slink (reporter)
2010-04-14 09:11

I had the same problem with warthogs. I changed them to [PET] instead of [PET_EXOTIC] in the raws for that save and they then appeared on my Z-Animals menu.

(0006364)
king doom (reporter)
2010-05-07 10:29

Taming has never worked properly, mostly due to the exotic tag. If you don't have a dungeon master on site, the tag (which seems to be more of a yes/no flag) doesn't allow you to tame exotic animals, and it doesn't allow you to use the animals list to mark them as available for pets or slaughter. The big problem with this version is that the dungeon master (and all nobles) are bugged out and either never arrive, or arrive very, very, very, very rarely.

(0017194)
SocietalEclipse (reporter)
2011-04-08 04:45

"The big problem with this version is that the dungeon master (and all nobles) are bugged out and either never arrive, or arrive very, very, very, very rarely."

Actually, in regards to this bug it doesn't matter if you have a Dungeon Master or not. With one in my fort my tamed Giant Desert Scorpions, Giant Jaguars, and Giant Leopards do not appear in the Animals status. The Giant Jaguars and Giant Leopards appear *after* training them as war/hunting animals but seeing as not all exotic creatures can be trained the underlying bug cannot be worked around without modding [PET_EXOTIC] -> [PET] and/or adding [TRAINABLE] in every instance.

Issue History
Date Modified	Username	Field	Change
2010-04-05 09:52	AbuDhabi	New Issue
2010-04-05 10:05	Footkerchief	Note Added: 0001105
2010-04-05 10:05	Footkerchief	Note Edited: 0001105	View Revisions
2010-04-05 10:57	Qloos	Note Added: 0001118
2010-04-05 10:57	Qloos	Tag Attached: animals
2010-04-05 10:57	Qloos	Tag Attached: butcher
2010-04-05 11:52	Footkerchief	Note Added: 0001139
2010-04-05 13:05	damocles	Note Added: 0001176
2010-04-06 00:32	Khym Chanur	Note Added: 0001370
2010-04-06 00:54	Footkerchief	Note Added: 0001375
2010-04-07 03:01	AbuDhabi	Note Added: 0001709
2010-04-10 13:23	monk12	Note Added: 0002633
2010-04-10 13:25	monk12	Note Edited: 0002633	View Revisions
2010-04-10 16:18	kaefermelder	Note Added: 0002671
2010-04-10 16:53	Dame de la Licorne	Issue Monitored: Dame de la Licorne
2010-04-10 17:26	kaefermelder	Note Edited: 0002671	View Revisions
2010-04-13 21:53	Footkerchief	Relationship added	has duplicate 0001123
2010-04-13 21:54	Footkerchief	Summary	Tame animals bought from elves not butcherable => Tame animals bought from elves don't show up in the Animals screen
2010-04-13 22:11	Holy Mittens	Note Added: 0003402
2010-04-14 09:11	slink	Note Added: 0003484
2010-04-19 20:07	Footkerchief	Relationship added	has duplicate 0001345
2010-05-05 09:24	Footkerchief	Summary	Tame animals bought from elves don't show up in the Animals screen => Tame exotic pets don't show up in the Animals screen
2010-05-07 10:29	king doom	Note Added: 0006364
2010-05-20 09:46	Footkerchief	Relationship added	has duplicate 0001994
2010-05-20 09:46	Footkerchief	Issue Monitored: EvilGrin
2010-05-22 19:24	Footkerchief	Relationship added	related to 0002036
2010-06-23 12:26	Footkerchief	Relationship added	has duplicate 0002438
2010-08-08 09:23	Footkerchief	Relationship added	has duplicate 0002979
2010-08-08 09:23	Footkerchief	Category	Creatures => Dwarf Mode -- Interface, Animals
2010-08-10 10:00	theqmann	Issue Monitored: theqmann
2010-10-28 06:53	Hieronymous Alloy	Issue Monitored: Hieronymous Alloy
2010-12-07 06:45	Dwarfu	Relationship added	has duplicate 0003782
2011-04-08 04:45	SocietalEclipse	Note Added: 0017194
2011-08-19 19:38	monk12	Issue Monitored: monk12
2012-01-08 09:41	Dwarfu	Relationship added	related to 0003388
2012-03-11 05:20	Toady One	Status	new => resolved
2012-03-11 05:20	Toady One	Fixed in Version	=> Next Version
2012-03-11 05:20	Toady One	Resolution	open => fixed
2012-03-11 05:20	Toady One	Assigned To	=> Toady One
2012-03-13 06:40	Dame de la Licorne	Issue End Monitor: Dame de la Licorne
2012-03-29 12:50	monk12	Issue End Monitor: monk12

Notes
(0001105) Footkerchief (manager) 2010-04-05 10:05 edited on: 2010-04-05 10:05	What happened when you tried to mark them for slaughter? In what manner did it fail?

(0001118) Qloos (reporter) 2010-04-05 10:57	Reproducible on my end. The animals simply don't show up on the Z animal list, and can't be butchered from there.

(0001139) Footkerchief (manager) 2010-04-05 11:52	Hmm. Does it work if they're first removed from their cages?

(0001176) damocles (reporter) 2010-04-05 13:05	I have the same issue - you can slaughter them by using 'v'-'p' and set ready to slaughter, but they don't show up in the animals stock listing. Missing animals I have are: hoary marmot, cougar, black bear. All 3 are wandering around my fort, and are can be slaughtered through 'v'-'p' but not through 'z'-animals.

(0001370) Khym Chanur (reporter) 2010-04-06 00:32	I noticed that (at least before the animals are bought from the Elves) that the caged animals the Elves bring show up under the units list as "Merchant". Maybe that has something to do with it.

(0001375) Footkerchief (manager) 2010-04-06 00:54	SL in IRC says that this happens for animals that can't be tamed. I haven't verified that myself.

(0001709) AbuDhabi (reporter) 2010-04-07 03:01	However, the unbutcherable animals I bought were listed as 'tame'. They were not possible to tame from the kennel menu - not showing up on there, even.

(0002633) monk12 (reporter) 2010-04-10 13:23 edited on: 2010-04-10 13:25	I also experience this problem, where some animals show up in the animal stock listing and others do not. Tame absentees include a pair of Foxes, Warthogs, Buzzards, raccoons, and an alligator, cougar, and turtle. An untamed raccoon also fails to appear. Curiously, although all the expected domestic animals appear they are also joined by the blue jay, cardinal, and hedgehog (vermin all), but not the turtle. Although butchering is still possible by selecting individual critters, none of the absentees can be made pets. Will see whether the presence of the Dungeon Master returns the animals to the screen.

(0002671) kaefermelder (reporter) 2010-04-10 16:18 edited on: 2010-04-10 17:26	Funny. I have 4 black bears, all show up. + 1 grizzly bear. blue jay, hedgehog are on the list, turtle is missing. All other animals I traded are missing: muskox, deer, foxes, groundhog, wolves, buzzards, rhesus macaques, elk, warthog, alligator. Animals from immigration show up fine. Muskox roams, rest in cage. All marked tame. No change now after releasing them.

(0003402) Holy Mittens (reporter) 2010-04-13 22:11	I believe this happens for animals that are exotic pets. The elves will bring them, but the exotic ones will be listed as simply, say Alligator (Tame) as opposed to Stray Alligator (Tame).

(0003484) slink (reporter) 2010-04-14 09:11	I had the same problem with warthogs. I changed them to [PET] instead of [PET_EXOTIC] in the raws for that save and they then appeared on my Z-Animals menu.

(0006364) king doom (reporter) 2010-05-07 10:29	Taming has never worked properly, mostly due to the exotic tag. If you don't have a dungeon master on site, the tag (which seems to be more of a yes/no flag) doesn't allow you to tame exotic animals, and it doesn't allow you to use the animals list to mark them as available for pets or slaughter. The big problem with this version is that the dungeon master (and all nobles) are bugged out and either never arrive, or arrive very, very, very, very rarely.

(0017194) SocietalEclipse (reporter) 2011-04-08 04:45	"The big problem with this version is that the dungeon master (and all nobles) are bugged out and either never arrive, or arrive very, very, very, very rarely." Actually, in regards to this bug it doesn't matter if you have a Dungeon Master or not. With one in my fort my tamed Giant Desert Scorpions, Giant Jaguars, and Giant Leopards do not appear in the Animals status. The Giant Jaguars and Giant Leopards appear after training them as war/hunting animals but seeing as not all exotic creatures can be trained the underlying bug cannot be worked around without modding [PET_EXOTIC] -> [PET] and/or adding [TRAINABLE] in every instance.