0007099: Some plants apparently not able to be processed/process fruit reaction not working.

(0025887)
Rafal99 (reporter)
2014-07-11 18:12

Which plants exactly have this bug?

(0025889)
4maskwolf (reporter)
2014-07-11 18:25

*Checks his stocks*

Bambara groundnut plants have a fruit component to their raw file, not processable.

Pepper Plants

Squash Vines

Winter Mellon Vines

Pineapple plants.

All five appear to not be processable, and the first was the one I was referring to when I wrote this up.

(0025946)
_qq_ (reporter)
2014-07-11 23:32

Grape Vines seem unprocessable as well.

(0025960)
4maskwolf (reporter)
2014-07-12 05:34

Thanks qq!

That makes six plants that appear to be unable to be processed. Does anyone have any others?

(0025961)
4maskwolf (reporter)
2014-07-12 05:40

Actually, I think I know what the problem could be:

Dwarves appear to use the same pick-up-plant mechanic from back when all plants were one-material and a seed. As such, they pick up whole (and unprocessable) plants rather than only the parts of the plant they should (the melons, the grapes, etc).

Just my hypothesis, I could be entirely wrong.

(0026556)
Dame de la Licorne (reporter)
2014-07-15 17:25

Add muskmelons to the list. Muskmelon vines produce more muskmelon vines, not muskmelons themselves.

(0026755)
BaZERGer (reporter)
2014-07-17 09:25

Ran into something similar with Eggplants, although they don't have any reactions, but could not be eaten, and can't see them in the kitchen view.

I tried renaming the name of the base plant to differ from the name of the fruit, and the name of the plant in my food stockpile changed as well, so it seems to be the issue mentioned of them gathering the whole plant instead of just the fruit.

I was able to rig the function "Process to Bag" to extract fruits from it, and once it finished, the product of it worked normaly, getting eaten and producing seeds, only the new plants you grow with them has the same issue.

I noticed the strawberries has the edible tags in both the fruit part and the base plant part, but only the reaction code in the fruit part, it might mean they're edible, but without a working reaction, till you can somehow get the fruit.

(0027870)
Claije (reporter)
2014-07-29 10:34

My guess is that someday we'll have a reaction that gives us all the growths, not just the fruit. That would make the "have to process to get the fruit so you can get seeds to get something to process again to get fruit" problem less redundant - as you would then get something edible raw for seeds as well as leaves and flowers and other byproducts.

If this is the case we're just missing the proper reaction, until then you can go through and make most of the garden vegetables have
"[ITEM_REACTION_PRODUCT:BAG_ITEM:PLANT_GROWTH:FRUIT:LOCAL_PLANT_MAT:FRUIT]"
or hearts, leaves, bulbs, etc. depending on the plant and then you can process the raw plant into something edible - beans on the other hand you'd need to add a process for each bean to get seeds out of the pod, or make the pods edible. Or process their seeds into bags with bag processing and then cook the seeds en masse (but you deal with the 200 seed limit)

(0028187)
Dwarfu (manager)
2014-08-02 19:56

Probably don't need a save for this one, but if anyone has one, please upload it - just to show it isn't a stockpile/barrel/burrow related bug.

(0028190)
4maskwolf (reporter)
2014-08-02 20:17
edited on: 2014-08-02 20:18

http://dffd.wimbli.com/file.php?id=9251 [^]

It's a .40.03 save, but I can confirm it still happens in .05: it's just those saves aren't on my current computer.

There are some muskmelon vines in a barrel that are unprocessable by any means.

(0028193)
Dwarfu (manager)
2014-08-02 20:31

Thanks for the save.

(0030895)
4maskwolf (reporter)
2014-11-06 16:43

This bug can be closed, Toady got around to allowing most things to be processed. I think he said bean plants are still a problem, but he knows of it's existence and has chosen to delay it. At this point, I think it's less of a bug and more of an unadded feature.

(0030898)
Footkerchief (manager)
2014-11-06 19:02

Thanks for the update!

Issue History
Date Modified	Username	Field	Change
2014-07-11 17:40	4maskwolf	New Issue
2014-07-11 18:12	Rafal99	Note Added: 0025887
2014-07-11 18:25	4maskwolf	Note Added: 0025889
2014-07-11 18:27	4maskwolf	Tag Attached: plant
2014-07-11 23:32	_qq_	Note Added: 0025946
2014-07-12 05:34	4maskwolf	Note Added: 0025960
2014-07-12 05:40	4maskwolf	Note Added: 0025961
2014-07-15 16:38	Footkerchief	Relationship added	has duplicate 0007352
2014-07-15 17:25	Dame de la Licorne	Note Added: 0026556
2014-07-16 08:04	Footkerchief	Relationship added	related to 0006709
2014-07-16 20:25	Lemunde	Issue Monitored: Lemunde
2014-07-17 09:25	BaZERGer	Note Added: 0026755
2014-07-26 14:55	Dame de la Licorne	Issue Monitored: Dame de la Licorne
2014-07-29 10:34	Claije	Note Added: 0027870
2014-08-02 19:55	Dwarfu	Relationship added	child of 0006940
2014-08-02 19:56	Dwarfu	Note Added: 0028187
2014-08-02 19:56	Dwarfu	Assigned To	=> Dwarfu
2014-08-02 19:56	Dwarfu	Status	new => needs feedback
2014-08-02 20:17	4maskwolf	Note Added: 0028190
2014-08-02 20:17	4maskwolf	Status	needs feedback => assigned
2014-08-02 20:18	4maskwolf	Note Edited: 0028190	View Revisions
2014-08-02 20:31	Dwarfu	Note Added: 0028193
2014-08-02 20:31	Dwarfu	Status	assigned => acknowledged
2014-11-06 16:43	4maskwolf	Note Added: 0030895
2014-11-06 19:02	Footkerchief	Note Added: 0030898
2014-11-06 19:02	Footkerchief	Status	acknowledged => resolved
2014-11-06 19:02	Footkerchief	Fixed in Version	=> 0.40.14
2014-11-06 19:02	Footkerchief	Resolution	open => fixed
2014-11-06 19:02	Footkerchief	Assigned To	Dwarfu => Toady One
2014-12-09 03:22	Dame de la Licorne	Issue End Monitor: Dame de la Licorne

Notes
(0025887) Rafal99 (reporter) 2014-07-11 18:12	Which plants exactly have this bug?

(0025889) 4maskwolf (reporter) 2014-07-11 18:25	Checks his stocks Bambara groundnut plants have a fruit component to their raw file, not processable. Pepper Plants Squash Vines Winter Mellon Vines Pineapple plants. All five appear to not be processable, and the first was the one I was referring to when I wrote this up.

(0025946) _qq_ (reporter) 2014-07-11 23:32	Grape Vines seem unprocessable as well.

(0025960) 4maskwolf (reporter) 2014-07-12 05:34	Thanks qq! That makes six plants that appear to be unable to be processed. Does anyone have any others?

(0025961) 4maskwolf (reporter) 2014-07-12 05:40	Actually, I think I know what the problem could be: Dwarves appear to use the same pick-up-plant mechanic from back when all plants were one-material and a seed. As such, they pick up whole (and unprocessable) plants rather than only the parts of the plant they should (the melons, the grapes, etc). Just my hypothesis, I could be entirely wrong.

(0026556) Dame de la Licorne (reporter) 2014-07-15 17:25	Add muskmelons to the list. Muskmelon vines produce more muskmelon vines, not muskmelons themselves.

(0026755) BaZERGer (reporter) 2014-07-17 09:25	Ran into something similar with Eggplants, although they don't have any reactions, but could not be eaten, and can't see them in the kitchen view. I tried renaming the name of the base plant to differ from the name of the fruit, and the name of the plant in my food stockpile changed as well, so it seems to be the issue mentioned of them gathering the whole plant instead of just the fruit. I was able to rig the function "Process to Bag" to extract fruits from it, and once it finished, the product of it worked normaly, getting eaten and producing seeds, only the new plants you grow with them has the same issue. I noticed the strawberries has the edible tags in both the fruit part and the base plant part, but only the reaction code in the fruit part, it might mean they're edible, but without a working reaction, till you can somehow get the fruit.

(0027870) Claije (reporter) 2014-07-29 10:34	My guess is that someday we'll have a reaction that gives us all the growths, not just the fruit. That would make the "have to process to get the fruit so you can get seeds to get something to process again to get fruit" problem less redundant - as you would then get something edible raw for seeds as well as leaves and flowers and other byproducts. If this is the case we're just missing the proper reaction, until then you can go through and make most of the garden vegetables have "[ITEM_REACTION_PRODUCT:BAG_ITEM:PLANT_GROWTH:FRUIT:LOCAL_PLANT_MAT:FRUIT]" or hearts, leaves, bulbs, etc. depending on the plant and then you can process the raw plant into something edible - beans on the other hand you'd need to add a process for each bean to get seeds out of the pod, or make the pods edible. Or process their seeds into bags with bag processing and then cook the seeds en masse (but you deal with the 200 seed limit)

(0028187) Dwarfu (manager) 2014-08-02 19:56	Probably don't need a save for this one, but if anyone has one, please upload it - just to show it isn't a stockpile/barrel/burrow related bug.

(0028190) 4maskwolf (reporter) 2014-08-02 20:17 edited on: 2014-08-02 20:18	http://dffd.wimbli.com/file.php?id=9251 [^] It's a .40.03 save, but I can confirm it still happens in .05: it's just those saves aren't on my current computer. There are some muskmelon vines in a barrel that are unprocessable by any means.

(0028193) Dwarfu (manager) 2014-08-02 20:31	Thanks for the save.

(0030895) 4maskwolf (reporter) 2014-11-06 16:43	This bug can be closed, Toady got around to allowing most things to be processed. I think he said bean plants are still a problem, but he knows of it's existence and has chosen to delay it. At this point, I think it's less of a bug and more of an unadded feature.

(0030898) Footkerchief (manager) 2014-11-06 19:02	Thanks for the update!