0007323: Unknown crash in autumn of first year

(0026490)
Button (reporter)
2014-07-15 09:51

I want to clarify that "reproducibility:always" refers to this particular save. I haven't had this problem on other saves, but with this save I always crash during autumn.

(0026523)
Toady One (administrator)
2014-07-15 12:51

Does it always crash at the same time in autumn? The save starts at 10th Limestone. I did the liaison meeting and got to around the 12th, but I'm not sure what I'm looking for.

(0026531)
Button (reporter)
2014-07-15 13:49

The crash happens somewhere between the 22nd and the 25th of Limestone.

(0026549)
Rafal99 (reporter)
2014-07-15 16:17

I could not reproduce the crash.
I run the game until 2nd Sandstone (the next month) and it didn't crash.

Could you make a save closer to the crash time where the crash would reproduce more reliably and quickly?

(0026552)
Footkerchief (manager)
2014-07-15 16:46
edited on: 2014-07-15 17:55

Reproduced 7 out of 8 tries, although the time wasn't consistent -- sometimes around Limestone 20, sometimes halfway through Sandstone. I wasn't able to get a faster save -- it seemed to delay the crash.

edit: not sure if this one's faster, but at least it's after the annoying liaison meeting http://dffd.wimbli.com/file.php?id=8998 [^]

(0026558)
Rafal99 (reporter)
2014-07-15 17:33
edited on: 2014-07-15 18:35

Tried another four times - for a total of 5 times.
- First time it didn't crash while I tested until 2nd Sandstone (as mentioned in my previous post).
- Second time it crashed soon after wagons reached the depot - around 16th Limestone.
- Third one crashed around 19th Limestone.
- Fourth one didn't crash when run until 16th Sandstone (just after traders left the map and migrants arrived).
- Fifth try crashed on 21th Limestone.

In the 2nd and 3rd try (the ones that crashed) I didn't request any items from the liason, while in 1st and 4th try I moved a slider a little on the first item in the request screen.
Edit: Fifth try shows no relation to the liason items request.

This save also shows bug with flying animals stuck in air (0006737).

Also I noticed some strange behavior of pack animals brought by merchants - as soon as the merchant leading the animal touches the depot, the items carried by animal go to the depot, and the strange part - the pack animal goes prone and starts wandering around the depot.

(0026560)
Dame de la Licorne (reporter)
2014-07-15 17:54
edited on: 2014-07-15 18:04

"Also I noticed some strange behavior of pack animals brought by merchants - as soon as the merchant leading the animal touches the depot, the items carried by animal go to the depot, and the strange part - the pack animal goes prone and starts wandering around the depot."

I encountered this in my own game. The bug report for it is: 0007357

(0026561)
Rafal99 (reporter)
2014-07-15 17:58
edited on: 2014-07-15 18:35

I quick search didn't find a bug report for it, please make a new one.

(0026566)
Staghorn (reporter)
2014-07-15 18:19

I may have the same bug. See here http://www.bay12games.com/dwarves/mantisbt/view.php?id=7359 [^]

(0026666)
Toady One (administrator)
2014-07-16 14:04

I've sorted out this one, I think. There was an issue with jump pathing that came up every so often in the future of the save.

Issue History
Date Modified	Username	Field	Change
2014-07-15 00:13	Button	New Issue
2014-07-15 09:51	Button	Note Added: 0026490
2014-07-15 12:51	Toady One	Note Added: 0026523
2014-07-15 13:49	Button	Note Added: 0026531
2014-07-15 16:17	Rafal99	Note Added: 0026549
2014-07-15 16:17	Rafal99	Issue Monitored: Rafal99
2014-07-15 16:46	Footkerchief	Note Added: 0026552
2014-07-15 17:12	Footkerchief	Note Edited: 0026552	View Revisions
2014-07-15 17:18	Footkerchief	Note Edited: 0026552	View Revisions
2014-07-15 17:26	Footkerchief	Note Edited: 0026552	View Revisions
2014-07-15 17:33	Rafal99	Note Added: 0026558
2014-07-15 17:54	Dame de la Licorne	Note Added: 0026560
2014-07-15 17:55	Footkerchief	Note Edited: 0026552	View Revisions
2014-07-15 17:58	Rafal99	Note Added: 0026561
2014-07-15 18:04	Rafal99	Note Edited: 0026558	View Revisions
2014-07-15 18:04	Dame de la Licorne	Note Edited: 0026560	View Revisions
2014-07-15 18:05	Rafal99	Note Edited: 0026561	View Revisions
2014-07-15 18:08	Rafal99	Note Edited: 0026558	View Revisions
2014-07-15 18:19	Staghorn	Note Added: 0026566
2014-07-15 18:35	Rafal99	Note Edited: 0026558	View Revisions
2014-07-15 18:35	Rafal99	Note Edited: 0026561	View Revisions
2014-07-16 14:04	Toady One	Note Added: 0026666
2014-07-16 14:04	Toady One	Status	new => resolved
2014-07-16 14:04	Toady One	Fixed in Version	=> Next Version
2014-07-16 14:04	Toady One	Resolution	open => fixed
2014-07-16 14:04	Toady One	Assigned To	=> Toady One
2014-07-16 14:07	Footkerchief	Relationship added	has duplicate 0007359
2014-07-16 16:09	Rafal99	Issue End Monitor: Rafal99

Notes
(0026490) Button (reporter) 2014-07-15 09:51	I want to clarify that "reproducibility:always" refers to this particular save. I haven't had this problem on other saves, but with this save I always crash during autumn.

(0026523) Toady One (administrator) 2014-07-15 12:51	Does it always crash at the same time in autumn? The save starts at 10th Limestone. I did the liaison meeting and got to around the 12th, but I'm not sure what I'm looking for.

(0026531) Button (reporter) 2014-07-15 13:49	The crash happens somewhere between the 22nd and the 25th of Limestone.

(0026549) Rafal99 (reporter) 2014-07-15 16:17	I could not reproduce the crash. I run the game until 2nd Sandstone (the next month) and it didn't crash. Could you make a save closer to the crash time where the crash would reproduce more reliably and quickly?

(0026552) Footkerchief (manager) 2014-07-15 16:46 edited on: 2014-07-15 17:55	Reproduced 7 out of 8 tries, although the time wasn't consistent -- sometimes around Limestone 20, sometimes halfway through Sandstone. I wasn't able to get a faster save -- it seemed to delay the crash. edit: not sure if this one's faster, but at least it's after the annoying liaison meeting http://dffd.wimbli.com/file.php?id=8998 [^]

(0026558) Rafal99 (reporter) 2014-07-15 17:33 edited on: 2014-07-15 18:35	Tried another four times - for a total of 5 times. - First time it didn't crash while I tested until 2nd Sandstone (as mentioned in my previous post). - Second time it crashed soon after wagons reached the depot - around 16th Limestone. - Third one crashed around 19th Limestone. - Fourth one didn't crash when run until 16th Sandstone (just after traders left the map and migrants arrived). - Fifth try crashed on 21th Limestone. In the 2nd and 3rd try (the ones that crashed) I didn't request any items from the liason, while in 1st and 4th try I moved a slider a little on the first item in the request screen. Edit: Fifth try shows no relation to the liason items request. This save also shows bug with flying animals stuck in air (0006737). Also I noticed some strange behavior of pack animals brought by merchants - as soon as the merchant leading the animal touches the depot, the items carried by animal go to the depot, and the strange part - the pack animal goes prone and starts wandering around the depot.

(0026560) Dame de la Licorne (reporter) 2014-07-15 17:54 edited on: 2014-07-15 18:04	"Also I noticed some strange behavior of pack animals brought by merchants - as soon as the merchant leading the animal touches the depot, the items carried by animal go to the depot, and the strange part - the pack animal goes prone and starts wandering around the depot." I encountered this in my own game. The bug report for it is: 0007357

(0026561) Rafal99 (reporter) 2014-07-15 17:58 edited on: 2014-07-15 18:35	I quick search didn't find a bug report for it, please make a new one.

(0026566) Staghorn (reporter) 2014-07-15 18:19	I may have the same bug. See here http://www.bay12games.com/dwarves/mantisbt/view.php?id=7359 [^]

(0026666) Toady One (administrator) 2014-07-16 14:04	I've sorted out this one, I think. There was an issue with jump pathing that came up every so often in the future of the save.