0007349: Seeing berserk dwarf triggers mass combat

(0026542)
Footkerchief (manager)
2014-07-15 15:06

Are the dwarves throwing tantrums?

(0026543)
Bobnova (reporter)
2014-07-15 15:07

No mods, no file editing. I do use the recently released Dwarf Therapist.
The issue happens regardless of whether it is running or not.

(0026544)
Bobnova (reporter)
2014-07-15 15:12

No tantrums are in evidence. The first dwarf attacked and its attackers this go-round are all ecstatic, they're listed as "No job", as well.

I spent some more time going frame by frame.
It looks like anybody who is interrupted and flees becomes a hostile and is chased/attacked.

(0027104)
alkatrazjr (reporter)
2014-07-20 23:19

Yep, experienced a very similar thing in 0.40.03 as well. Metalcrafter went berzerk, killed someone, I sent my army to kill him, and after they engaged him some of them began striking out at others, and the cascade resulted. It seems consistent with you saying that the cascade begins on sight. I also noticed that the combat log was filled with people yelling for revenge.

(0028983)
Quietust (reporter)
2014-08-13 13:37

After testing the save in 0.40.08, it does not appear to be the civil war bug ("loyalty cascade") - even amidst the chaos, all dwarves maintained their citizenship and site government membership.

(0029010)
Peeps (reporter)
2014-08-13 23:03

I had a dwarf go berserk and her lover started fighting as well.
It's possible that this is related to the new loyalty system, causing dwarves to attempt to aid their friends and family in combat regardless of their sanity.

(0029149)
Toady One (administrator)
2014-08-16 13:28

Yeah, it was usually the berserk planter's younger brother that was jumping in. I've made them consider the berserkness and other such factors now. After that, for 0.40.09, many dwarves in the fort jumped in to help the first non-berserk target, which is good.

Issue History
Date Modified	Username	Field	Change
2014-07-15 15:04	Bobnova	New Issue
2014-07-15 15:06	Footkerchief	Note Added: 0026542
2014-07-15 15:06	Footkerchief	Assigned To	=> Footkerchief
2014-07-15 15:06	Footkerchief	Status	new => needs feedback
2014-07-15 15:07	Bobnova	Note Added: 0026543
2014-07-15 15:07	Bobnova	Status	needs feedback => assigned
2014-07-15 15:12	Bobnova	Note Added: 0026544
2014-07-15 15:14	Footkerchief	Relationship added	related to 0003259
2014-07-20 23:19	alkatrazjr	Note Added: 0027104
2014-07-20 23:21	alkatrazjr	Issue Monitored: alkatrazjr
2014-08-09 19:54	Footkerchief	Status	assigned => confirmed
2014-08-10 09:47	Kanddak	Tag Attached: loyalty cascade
2014-08-13 13:37	Quietust	Note Added: 0028983
2014-08-13 22:35	xenofeel	Issue Monitored: xenofeel
2014-08-13 23:03	Peeps	Note Added: 0029010
2014-08-14 06:47	4maskwolf	Issue Monitored: 4maskwolf
2014-08-16 13:28	Toady One	Note Added: 0029149
2014-08-16 13:28	Toady One	Status	confirmed => resolved
2014-08-16 13:28	Toady One	Fixed in Version	=> Next Version
2014-08-16 13:28	Toady One	Resolution	open => fixed
2014-08-16 13:28	Toady One	Assigned To	Footkerchief => Toady One
2014-08-20 07:25	4maskwolf	Issue End Monitor: 4maskwolf

Notes
(0026542) Footkerchief (manager) 2014-07-15 15:06	Are the dwarves throwing tantrums?

(0026543) Bobnova (reporter) 2014-07-15 15:07	No mods, no file editing. I do use the recently released Dwarf Therapist. The issue happens regardless of whether it is running or not.

(0026544) Bobnova (reporter) 2014-07-15 15:12	No tantrums are in evidence. The first dwarf attacked and its attackers this go-round are all ecstatic, they're listed as "No job", as well. I spent some more time going frame by frame. It looks like anybody who is interrupted and flees becomes a hostile and is chased/attacked.

(0027104) alkatrazjr (reporter) 2014-07-20 23:19	Yep, experienced a very similar thing in 0.40.03 as well. Metalcrafter went berzerk, killed someone, I sent my army to kill him, and after they engaged him some of them began striking out at others, and the cascade resulted. It seems consistent with you saying that the cascade begins on sight. I also noticed that the combat log was filled with people yelling for revenge.

(0028983) Quietust (reporter) 2014-08-13 13:37	After testing the save in 0.40.08, it does not appear to be the civil war bug ("loyalty cascade") - even amidst the chaos, all dwarves maintained their citizenship and site government membership.

(0029010) Peeps (reporter) 2014-08-13 23:03	I had a dwarf go berserk and her lover started fighting as well. It's possible that this is related to the new loyalty system, causing dwarves to attempt to aid their friends and family in combat regardless of their sanity.

(0029149) Toady One (administrator) 2014-08-16 13:28	Yeah, it was usually the berserk planter's younger brother that was jumping in. I've made them consider the berserkness and other such factors now. After that, for 0.40.09, many dwarves in the fort jumped in to help the first non-berserk target, which is good.