0008240: Injured dwarf remains "overcome by terror" through months of hospital care

(0029955)
smjjames (reporter)
2014-09-04 20:28

This sounds exactly like the 'stuck in traction' bug, have you tried deconstructing the traction table?

Also, do you have the save of this happening? If so, could you post on DFFD?

(0029956)
Footkerchief (manager)
2014-09-04 23:27

Does it reproduce in 0.40.11?

(0029960)
Loci (manager)
2014-09-05 07:57

@smjjames: No; some injuries do indeed take 6+ months to heal. But the bug I'm reporting here is that the "overcome by terror" flag is not being cleared for hospitalized dwarves. I don't think the flag is interfering with treatment in any way, it's just odd/broken to be in mortal terror for 6 months straight.

@Footkerchief: I don't know.

(0029961)
smjjames (reporter)
2014-09-05 08:36
edited on: 2014-09-05 09:01

True Loci, but have you tried to see if it does anything?

Though if the injuries are so bad that they take 6+ months to heal, I guess it's something like PTSD?

Also, what are the stats of that dwarf, like their discipline, courage/bravery, etc?

(0029962)
Footkerchief (manager)
2014-09-05 09:34

Need a save for 0.40.11+.

(0029998)
Loci (manager)
2014-09-06 14:25

Is there some reason to believe that this behavior has changed in v0.40.11? I see nothing in the changelog that suggests this bug has been fixed.

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Dame de la Licorne (reporter)
2014-09-06 14:55
edited on: 2014-09-06 15:28

Bugs can get fixed unintentionally, without a mention in the change/dev logs. In any case, the more recent the save, the easier Toady can track down the cause.

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smjjames (reporter)
2014-09-06 16:32

Have you even tried to see if deconstructing the traction bench removes that state? You can just make a copy of the save if you don't want to redo the 6+ months of healing for that dwarf.

Toady One just marked off the 'stuck in traction' reports as being fixed by that rest+knockout bug fix for the next version, so, unless that dwarf has finished healing by the time 4.12 is released, you should definetly check if it happens in that version.

(0030003)
Loci (manager)
2014-09-06 18:19

The dwarf eventually does heal completely while remaining "overcome by terror!". Removing the traction bench frees the dwarf and removes the "overcome by terror!" status shortly thereafter, whether the dwarf has finished healing or not. Assuming that the dwarf would no longer be stuck in traction in v0.40.12, he would still have been "overcome by terror!" for 6 months straight, which, in my opinion, is still clearly buggy behavior.

I really don't think this is a grand or mysterious bug. There is a flag set when a dwarf becomes terrified. This flag apparently did not get cleared when a dwarf was hospitalized while unconscious, nor during the following 6 months of treatment/rest. This flag probably should be cleared upon hospitalization, or possibly some time shortly after.

(0030013)
Footkerchief (manager)
2014-09-07 09:20

My guess is that you're right, but it's hard to be sure of the problem (and whether the solution works) without a save.

Notes
(0029955) smjjames (reporter) 2014-09-04 20:28	This sounds exactly like the 'stuck in traction' bug, have you tried deconstructing the traction table? Also, do you have the save of this happening? If so, could you post on DFFD?

(0029956) Footkerchief (manager) 2014-09-04 23:27	Does it reproduce in 0.40.11?

(0029960) Loci (manager) 2014-09-05 07:57	@smjjames: No; some injuries do indeed take 6+ months to heal. But the bug I'm reporting here is that the "overcome by terror" flag is not being cleared for hospitalized dwarves. I don't think the flag is interfering with treatment in any way, it's just odd/broken to be in mortal terror for 6 months straight. @Footkerchief: I don't know.

(0029961) smjjames (reporter) 2014-09-05 08:36 edited on: 2014-09-05 09:01	True Loci, but have you tried to see if it does anything? Though if the injuries are so bad that they take 6+ months to heal, I guess it's something like PTSD? Also, what are the stats of that dwarf, like their discipline, courage/bravery, etc?

(0029962) Footkerchief (manager) 2014-09-05 09:34	Need a save for 0.40.11+.

(0029998) Loci (manager) 2014-09-06 14:25	Is there some reason to believe that this behavior has changed in v0.40.11? I see nothing in the changelog that suggests this bug has been fixed.

(0030000) Dame de la Licorne (reporter) 2014-09-06 14:55 edited on: 2014-09-06 15:28	Bugs can get fixed unintentionally, without a mention in the change/dev logs. In any case, the more recent the save, the easier Toady can track down the cause.

(0030001) smjjames (reporter) 2014-09-06 16:32	Have you even tried to see if deconstructing the traction bench removes that state? You can just make a copy of the save if you don't want to redo the 6+ months of healing for that dwarf. Toady One just marked off the 'stuck in traction' reports as being fixed by that rest+knockout bug fix for the next version, so, unless that dwarf has finished healing by the time 4.12 is released, you should definetly check if it happens in that version.

(0030003) Loci (manager) 2014-09-06 18:19	The dwarf eventually does heal completely while remaining "overcome by terror!". Removing the traction bench frees the dwarf and removes the "overcome by terror!" status shortly thereafter, whether the dwarf has finished healing or not. Assuming that the dwarf would no longer be stuck in traction in v0.40.12, he would still have been "overcome by terror!" for 6 months straight, which, in my opinion, is still clearly buggy behavior. I really don't think this is a grand or mysterious bug. There is a flag set when a dwarf becomes terrified. This flag apparently did not get cleared when a dwarf was hospitalized while unconscious, nor during the following 6 months of treatment/rest. This flag probably should be cleared upon hospitalization, or possibly some time shortly after.

(0030013) Footkerchief (manager) 2014-09-07 09:20	My guess is that you're right, but it's hard to be sure of the problem (and whether the solution works) without a save.

Issue History
Date Modified	Username	Field	Change
2014-09-04 20:06	Loci	New Issue
2014-09-04 20:28	smjjames	Note Added: 0029955
2014-09-04 23:27	Footkerchief	Note Added: 0029956
2014-09-04 23:27	Footkerchief	Assigned To	=> Footkerchief
2014-09-04 23:27	Footkerchief	Status	new => needs feedback
2014-09-05 07:57	Loci	Note Added: 0029960
2014-09-05 07:57	Loci	Status	needs feedback => assigned
2014-09-05 08:36	smjjames	Note Added: 0029961
2014-09-05 09:01	smjjames	Note Edited: 0029961	View Revisions
2014-09-05 09:34	Footkerchief	Note Added: 0029962
2014-09-05 09:34	Footkerchief	Status	assigned => needs feedback
2014-09-06 14:25	Loci	Note Added: 0029998
2014-09-06 14:25	Loci	Status	needs feedback => assigned
2014-09-06 14:55	Dame de la Licorne	Note Added: 0030000
2014-09-06 15:28	Dame de la Licorne	Note Edited: 0030000	View Revisions
2014-09-06 16:32	smjjames	Note Added: 0030001
2014-09-06 18:19	Loci	Note Added: 0030003
2014-09-07 09:20	Footkerchief	Note Added: 0030013
2014-09-07 09:20	Footkerchief	Status	assigned => needs feedback

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