0009344: Eerie Murk-covered Raven Thralls appearing on non-evil embark

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Talvieno (reporter)
2015-12-14 13:49

The forest just to the north appears to be haunted, too.

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DeKaFu (reporter)
2015-12-14 14:14

It's not. I thought so too based on the map, but it's actually a calm rocky wasteland. Double checked with the site finder, there's nothing evil closer than the marsh I mentioned.

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Talvieno (reporter)
2015-12-14 14:32

Confirming this report.

I was skeptical and downloaded your save to take a closer look at it. It's not a calm rocky wasteland, it's a calm temperate broadleaf forest - which is considerably stranger, as it's showing up in "haunted" colors but isn't marked as haunted. Your fortress is built in a temperate savanna/temperate grassland wilderness. There's no reason for thralled ravens to be showing up here, and the game files certainly don't look like they've been changed much. It's bizarre, to say the least. I've never seen anything like it.

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untrustedlife (reporter)
2015-12-14 15:27

Were the ravens named in legends? they could have started wandering around aftr rbecoming hist figs, ive seen undead crows do the same.

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untrustedlife (reporter)
2015-12-14 15:27

after becoming* sorry my browser wouldn't let me move the curser to correct it

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Detros (manager)
2015-12-14 15:49

Could they have been visitors, coming from such site that they went through some distant evil area? Roomcarnage had some merchants entering map as thralls already, IIRC.

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DeKaFu (reporter)
2015-12-18 17:15

The ravens were unnamed (just showed up as "Raven eerie murk thrall" on the unit list) and don't show up in legends. They seem just like regular wildlife, outside of their condition and murk-covering.

I reverted the world to before my first fortress embark and tried a second embark in a nearby location, in the same named region. This one is situated on two temperate savanna wilderness biomes. This one has an one additional "world" map square of distance from the nearest evil region (so 3 squares away).

The new embark has already received one "Great Horned Owl eerie murk thrall" before the end of spring. So whatever the issue is, it apparently applies to the entire region. When I get a chance to play this fortress a bit longer I can try to upload another save, if that would be helpful.

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bugsubmitter20001 (reporter)
2020-05-09 15:05
edited on: 2020-05-09 15:06

Im having a similar "feature". I have setup my fortress in a non-evil "Untaimed Wilds" biome. There is a necromancy tower 13 diagonals away from my fort.

I have a "Honeylock's Fist" roaming around the outdoors, marked as a "Wild Animal". The description states "A hairy humanoid. It has thin wings of stretched skin. Its black hair is long and straight. This night creature was first created by human necromancer Ecod Honeylock of Stillgrip after horrible experiments on the human Or Veiledballs in Muscleconfines in the year 121"

Stillgrip is the name of said necro-tower

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bugsubmitter20001 (reporter)
2020-05-09 15:05

This is in 0.47.04*

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Shonai_Dweller (reporter)
2020-05-10 21:49

It's only ever flyers which turn up, so almost certainly caused by 0008781 which likely won't be fixed until the map rewrite.

Notes
(0033888) Talvieno (reporter) 2015-12-14 13:49	The forest just to the north appears to be haunted, too.

(0033889) DeKaFu (reporter) 2015-12-14 14:14	It's not. I thought so too based on the map, but it's actually a calm rocky wasteland. Double checked with the site finder, there's nothing evil closer than the marsh I mentioned.

(0033891) Talvieno (reporter) 2015-12-14 14:32	Confirming this report. I was skeptical and downloaded your save to take a closer look at it. It's not a calm rocky wasteland, it's a calm temperate broadleaf forest - which is considerably stranger, as it's showing up in "haunted" colors but isn't marked as haunted. Your fortress is built in a temperate savanna/temperate grassland wilderness. There's no reason for thralled ravens to be showing up here, and the game files certainly don't look like they've been changed much. It's bizarre, to say the least. I've never seen anything like it.

(0033893) untrustedlife (reporter) 2015-12-14 15:27	Were the ravens named in legends? they could have started wandering around aftr rbecoming hist figs, ive seen undead crows do the same.

(0033894) untrustedlife (reporter) 2015-12-14 15:27	after becoming* sorry my browser wouldn't let me move the curser to correct it

(0033897) Detros (manager) 2015-12-14 15:49	Could they have been visitors, coming from such site that they went through some distant evil area? Roomcarnage had some merchants entering map as thralls already, IIRC.

(0034034) DeKaFu (reporter) 2015-12-18 17:15	The ravens were unnamed (just showed up as "Raven eerie murk thrall" on the unit list) and don't show up in legends. They seem just like regular wildlife, outside of their condition and murk-covering. I reverted the world to before my first fortress embark and tried a second embark in a nearby location, in the same named region. This one is situated on two temperate savanna wilderness biomes. This one has an one additional "world" map square of distance from the nearest evil region (so 3 squares away). The new embark has already received one "Great Horned Owl eerie murk thrall" before the end of spring. So whatever the issue is, it apparently applies to the entire region. When I get a chance to play this fortress a bit longer I can try to upload another save, if that would be helpful.

(0040532) bugsubmitter20001 (reporter) 2020-05-09 15:05 edited on: 2020-05-09 15:06	Im having a similar "feature". I have setup my fortress in a non-evil "Untaimed Wilds" biome. There is a necromancy tower 13 diagonals away from my fort. I have a "Honeylock's Fist" roaming around the outdoors, marked as a "Wild Animal". The description states "A hairy humanoid. It has thin wings of stretched skin. Its black hair is long and straight. This night creature was first created by human necromancer Ecod Honeylock of Stillgrip after horrible experiments on the human Or Veiledballs in Muscleconfines in the year 121" Stillgrip is the name of said necro-tower

(0040533) bugsubmitter20001 (reporter) 2020-05-09 15:05	This is in 0.47.04*

(0040537) Shonai_Dweller (reporter) 2020-05-10 21:49	It's only ever flyers which turn up, so almost certainly caused by 0008781 which likely won't be fixed until the map rewrite.

Issue History
Date Modified	Username	Field	Change
2015-12-14 10:05	DeKaFu	New Issue
2015-12-14 13:49	Talvieno	Note Added: 0033888
2015-12-14 14:14	DeKaFu	Note Added: 0033889
2015-12-14 14:32	Talvieno	Note Added: 0033891
2015-12-14 15:27	untrustedlife	Note Added: 0033893
2015-12-14 15:27	untrustedlife	Note Added: 0033894
2015-12-14 15:49	Detros	Note Added: 0033897
2015-12-18 17:15	DeKaFu	Note Added: 0034034
2016-10-03 18:13	Loci	Relationship added	child of 0008781
2020-05-09 15:05	bugsubmitter20001	Note Added: 0040532
2020-05-09 15:05	bugsubmitter20001	Note Added: 0040533
2020-05-09 15:06	bugsubmitter20001	Note Edited: 0040532	View Revisions
2020-05-10 21:49	Shonai_Dweller	Note Added: 0040537