0002036: Dungeon Master doesn't allow taming/training of exotic pets/mounts

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(0007207) lando242 (reporter) 2010-05-22 18:18	Something you did messed it up. I've gotten the DM naturally on an un-modded game and been able to tame Giant Leopards, Dragons, etc, etc, without issue.

(0007732) Footkerchief (manager) 2010-06-05 12:49	Any updates on this one? Has anyone gotten a nonfunctional Dungeon Master in a non-modded game?

(0007960) Kumquat (reporter) 2010-06-08 16:04 edited on: 2010-06-10 09:13	I haven't gotten a dungeon master at all in an non-modded game so far. First long-term game started in .01 fell victim to broken and/or dead nobility, although I did have a surviving mayor. The second long-term fort I played was probably bitten by the object-id bug most likely since the dorfs wore togas but not high boots and seemed to be a part of the human civilization or something strange like that. (Offered a crate of masterwork obsidian crafts to dorf-civ but offerings value in capital page was zero) Haven't gotten over to playing that much on better-working versions. Update: Loading the .01 game with baroness to .05 did not open any of the noble positions it should have. This may or may not be because the outpost liaison has been long dead.

(0016028) Khym Chanur (reporter) 2011-03-09 19:47	I reproduced this in 0.31.21 by modding the dungeon master to be appointable by the mayor, and having the mayor be elected at population 1. Both before and after appointing the dungeon master the deer, fox and cougar I'd captured in a cage remained untamable, while the wild turkeys and panda I'd caught could be tamed with or without a dungeon master. Also, checked to see if the DM having all of his/her requirements met had anything to do with it. Nope, with all requirements met I still can't tame any exotics.

(0017087) nshapter (reporter) 2011-04-05 10:46	My custom edited raws include this change as well, and reproduced this in 31.18 and 31.25. The Dungeon Master does not function at all.

(0017088) Quietust (reporter) 2011-04-05 11:14 edited on: 2011-04-05 11:18	Try adding [LAND_HOLDER:1] to the dungeon master, hammerer, and tax collector - the last time I tried testing that, the liaison allowed me to select each of them along with the baron, but I wasn't able to observe whether it enabled the taming of exotics; it didn't enable justice or the economy, but that may have been normal (justice might only get enabled by Sheriff availability, and economy might be hardcoded to never enable at all).

(0017137) SocietalEclipse (reporter) 2011-04-06 11:54	"[APPOINTED_BY:MAYOR]" is all it takes to get a DM. This bug is still present regardless.

(0017236) Quietust (reporter) 2011-04-09 09:25	SocietalEclipse: That wasn't my point - I was suggesting that manually assigning Dungeon Master the same way you assign Bookkeeper or Manager might not be sufficient to activate all of its functionality - since using LAND_HOLDER makes the game itself assign the position (in such a way that it will not permit you to arbitrarily assign a replacement, just like with the Baron), it might be a more accurate way of testing whether or not the position works.

(0017386) kingpeonidas (reporter) 2011-04-15 03:29	a dungeon master dorf may already have a flag that makes him special, not just a characteristic of the position itself.

(0017678) Quietust (reporter) 2011-05-09 20:28 edited on: 2011-05-09 20:33	Here's a side question - if you make the Baron manually appointable by your expedition leader, does the game generate the "The surrounding lands have been made a barony" message when you appoint one? I've already done this experiment, so I'll save you the trouble and give you the answer: it doesn't. I'm just trying to make the point that there is a very real difference between assigning a position manually and allowing the position to be assigned via a special in-game trigger (i.e. meeting with liaison), and that the ability to tame exotics might only be enabled as part of the latter scenario.

(0017995) Quietust (reporter) 2011-06-14 19:57	For the record, a further test with the dungeon master being appointed by the liaison using LAND_HOLDER seems to indicate that neither appointment method is sufficient to enable taming of exotics.

(0018923) Quietust (reporter) 2011-10-28 14:04	Digging into a disassembly (as I have grown accustomed to doing) suggests that part (or all) of the code for making exotics tameable is missing entirely - I checked the logic for prepending "Stray " to animal names in both 0.28.181.40d and 0.31.25, and while the former checks for both [PET] and [PET_EXOTIC]+"have dungeon master" (checks if one integer is greater than some other integer), the latter checks only [PET].

(0021217) Dwarfu (manager) 2012-03-07 08:09	Marking this as 'won't fix' since the dungeon master is out and the taming framework is being rewritten. http://www.bay12games.com/dwarves/index.html#2012-03-07 [^]

Issue History
Date Modified	Username	Field	Change
2010-05-22 15:14	Kumquat	New Issue
2010-05-22 18:18	lando242	Note Added: 0007207
2010-05-22 19:24	Footkerchief	Relationship added	related to 0000482
2010-05-29 22:58	Khym Chanur	Issue Monitored: Khym Chanur
2010-06-05 12:49	Footkerchief	Note Added: 0007732
2010-06-08 16:04	Kumquat	Note Added: 0007960
2010-06-09 00:33	Kumquat	Note Edited: 0007960	View Revisions
2010-06-10 09:13	Kumquat	Note Edited: 0007960	View Revisions
2010-08-10 10:01	theqmann	Issue Monitored: theqmann
2010-10-04 14:09	Another	Issue Monitored: Another
2010-10-22 11:32	Logical2u	Relationship added	related to 0003453
2010-10-28 06:53	Hieronymous Alloy	Issue Monitored: Hieronymous Alloy
2010-12-04 23:44	novaalpha	Issue Monitored: novaalpha
2011-03-09 19:47	Khym Chanur	Note Added: 0016028
2011-04-05 10:46	nshapter	Note Added: 0017087
2011-04-05 11:07	Footkerchief	Summary	Dungeon Master doesn't make any difference => Dungeon Master doesn't allow taming/training of exotic pets/mounts
2011-04-05 11:07	Footkerchief	Description Updated	View Revisions
2011-04-05 11:07	Footkerchief	Steps to Reproduce Updated	View Revisions
2011-04-05 11:07	Footkerchief	Additional Information Updated	View Revisions
2011-04-05 11:14	Quietust	Note Added: 0017088
2011-04-05 11:18	Quietust	Note Edited: 0017088	View Revisions
2011-04-06 11:54	SocietalEclipse	Note Added: 0017137
2011-04-09 09:25	Quietust	Note Added: 0017236
2011-04-15 03:29	kingpeonidas	Note Added: 0017386
2011-05-09 20:28	Quietust	Note Added: 0017678
2011-05-09 20:32	Quietust	Note Edited: 0017678	View Revisions
2011-05-09 20:33	Quietust	Note Edited: 0017678	View Revisions
2011-06-14 19:57	Quietust	Note Added: 0017995
2011-06-14 22:17	madjoe5	Issue Monitored: madjoe5
2011-07-09 18:01	Beeskee	Issue Monitored: Beeskee
2011-07-22 17:08	Vherid	Issue Monitored: Vherid
2011-09-14 15:39	Morrolan	Issue Monitored: Morrolan
2011-10-28 14:04	Quietust	Note Added: 0018923
2012-01-06 17:44	Morlark	Issue Monitored: Morlark
2012-03-07 08:09	Dwarfu	Note Added: 0021217
2012-03-07 08:09	Dwarfu	Status	new => resolved
2012-03-07 08:09	Dwarfu	Resolution	open => won't fix
2012-03-07 08:09	Dwarfu	Assigned To	=> Dwarfu
2012-03-07 15:03	Vherid	Issue End Monitor: Vherid
2012-03-08 18:47	madjoe5	Issue End Monitor: madjoe5
2012-05-28 17:51	Morrolan	Issue End Monitor: Morrolan
2012-06-24 18:10	Morlark	Issue End Monitor: Morlark