0006627: Immigrants arrive/become hostile - Dwarf Fortress Bug Tracker

(0025225)
Untelligent (reporter)
2014-07-08 19:58

I have a handful of hostile migrants hanging around the edges of my map. When I send soldiers to them, they don't fight each other.

(0025622)
Footkerchief (manager)
2014-07-10 16:57

JackBread posted this save at 0006986: http://dffd.wimbli.com/file.php?id=8845 [^]

(0025631)
Archereon (reporter)
2014-07-10 17:23
edited on: 2014-07-10 17:24

Is it possible you're just being raided by bandits? If not, maybe the migrant selection algorithm is accidentally pulling bandits as valid immigrants? Also, goblins? I wasn't under the impression that the game was able to handle multi-race sites in fortress mode.

Also, there's been at least one report of a dwarven siege occurring in 0.40.01; it may be that civilizations of the same race are no longer incapable of declaring war on each other.

(0025634)
JackBread (reporter)
2014-07-10 17:35

The thing with my save is that the immigrants aren't actually hostile. They didn't do anything when I had a bunch of dwarves stand near them.

(0025661)
ArmokGoB (reporter)
2014-07-10 20:04

Can confirm. First migrant wave was all hostile Dwarves.
Save: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/87322559/HostileMigrants.zip [^]

(0025662)
Footkerchief (manager)
2014-07-10 20:06

JackBread: I assumed that was from an unrelated issue with aggression, like 0006547.

(0025859)
Arcvasti (reporter)
2014-07-11 15:21

Can confirm this still happens in 40.02. Attached save has several "hostile" migrants on the edge of the map. http://dffd.wimbli.com/file.php?id=8882 [^]

(0025865)
Saram-61-97-kon (reporter)
2014-07-11 15:50

May related with this one?:
http://www.bay12games.com/dwarves/mantisbt/view.php?id=7060 [^]

(0026116)
Knight Otu (manager)
2014-07-13 06:12
edited on: 2014-07-13 08:59

Vakarias posted a save at 0007198: http://dffd.wimbli.com/file.php?id=8932 [^]

(0026184)
Vakarias (reporter)
2014-07-13 12:11

http://dffd.wimbli.com/file.php?id=8945 [^] Managed to do it again when unretiring a retired fortress. I had triple checked beforehand that I was embarking with the exact same civ as I had started the fortress with, and all the original residents are 'hostile' but do nothing. Some migrants are hostile, others are as they are normally meant to be.

(0026398)
Sivarty (reporter)
2014-07-14 18:28

Can confirm this is still happening in 0.40.03. Had a "hostile" dwarf tanner show up in first migrant wave and hang out at the edge of the map

(0026471)
Sivarty (reporter)
2014-07-15 07:45

"Hostile" migrants will also bring pets, which interesting enough are not "hostile"

(0026622)
clanl (reporter)
2014-07-16 06:52

You can also butcher all those pets they bring as none do have a friendly owner in your fortress.

(0026997)
fourpotatoes (reporter)
2014-07-20 02:06
edited on: 2014-07-21 22:23

Since I was uploading it anyway for a different bug, here's another save: http://dffd.wimbli.com/file.php?id=9075 [^]

I haven't tried killing them or even sent anyone over that way yet. They seem to be content to stand around in their corner.

I did do some adventuring in this world before starting the fortress.

Edit: I'm going to wait until I've seen this on 0.40.04 for a save, but I've had some members of the same migrant wave be good, upstanding dwarves and others hostile.

(0027043)
Sivarty (reporter)
2014-07-20 12:44

Here is the forum discusion on this bug.
http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=140689.0 [^]

(0027166)
palu (reporter)
2014-07-21 17:41

I've got this. Haven't sent anyone to fight them yet. All various farmers.
http://dffd.wimbli.com/file.php?id=9107 [^]

(0027213)
Toady One (administrator)
2014-07-22 11:04

Looks like it was probably related to prior adventuring and some badly retained flags. Should be fixed for next time, including patching up old saves. Migrants that are patched up from old saves might act a little strange at first, since their inventory items were not processed properly on arrival.

Issue History
Date Modified	Username	Field	Change
2014-07-08 05:03	ravendarksky	New Issue
2014-07-08 13:01	Footkerchief	Summary	First summer of fortress, invaded by 5 dwarfs + 1 goblin instead of migrants => Immigrants become hostile
2014-07-08 13:02	Footkerchief	Relationship added	has duplicate 0006695
2014-07-08 19:58	Untelligent	Note Added: 0025225
2014-07-10 16:57	Footkerchief	Relationship added	has duplicate 0006986
2014-07-10 16:57	Footkerchief	Note Added: 0025622
2014-07-10 17:23	Archereon	Note Added: 0025631
2014-07-10 17:24	Archereon	Note Edited: 0025631	View Revisions
2014-07-10 17:35	JackBread	Note Added: 0025634
2014-07-10 20:04	ArmokGoB	Note Added: 0025661
2014-07-10 20:06	Footkerchief	Note Added: 0025662
2014-07-11 15:21	Arcvasti	Note Added: 0025859
2014-07-11 15:33	4maskwolf	Issue Monitored: 4maskwolf
2014-07-11 15:50	Saram-61-97-kon	Note Added: 0025865
2014-07-12 17:13	Dwarfu	Relationship added	has duplicate 0007166
2014-07-13 06:11	Knight Otu	Relationship added	has duplicate 0007198
2014-07-13 06:12	Knight Otu	Note Added: 0026116
2014-07-13 08:59	Footkerchief	Note Edited: 0026116	View Revisions
2014-07-13 09:04	Footkerchief	Relationship added	has duplicate 0007172
2014-07-13 12:11	Vakarias	Note Added: 0026184
2014-07-14 18:28	Sivarty	Note Added: 0026398
2014-07-14 18:55	Footkerchief	Relationship added	related to 0000685
2014-07-14 18:56	Footkerchief	Relationship added	related to 0003685
2014-07-14 18:56	Footkerchief	Relationship deleted	related to 0000685
2014-07-15 07:45	Sivarty	Note Added: 0026471
2014-07-16 06:52	clanl	Note Added: 0026622
2014-07-16 07:15	Dwarfu	Category	Dwarf Mode -- Invasions => Dwarf Mode -- Immigration
2014-07-16 07:15	Dwarfu	Summary	Immigrants become hostile => Immigrants arrive/become hostile
2014-07-16 07:15	Dwarfu	Relationship added	has duplicate 0007380
2014-07-16 07:15	Dwarfu	Assigned To	=> Dwarfu
2014-07-16 07:15	Dwarfu	Status	new => acknowledged
2014-07-16 07:15	Dwarfu	Sticky Issue	No => Yes
2014-07-19 15:57	smickles	Issue Monitored: smickles
2014-07-20 01:32	fourpotatoes	Issue Monitored: fourpotatoes
2014-07-20 02:06	fourpotatoes	Note Added: 0026997
2014-07-20 02:08	fourpotatoes	Note Edited: 0026997	View Revisions
2014-07-20 12:44	Sivarty	Note Added: 0027043
2014-07-20 13:04	Dwarfu	Relationship added	has duplicate 0007516
2014-07-21 17:41	palu	Note Added: 0027166
2014-07-21 20:34	Footkerchief	Relationship added	has duplicate 0007550
2014-07-21 22:23	fourpotatoes	Note Edited: 0026997	View Revisions
2014-07-22 11:04	Toady One	Note Added: 0027213
2014-07-22 11:04	Toady One	Status	acknowledged => resolved
2014-07-22 11:04	Toady One	Fixed in Version	=> Next Version
2014-07-22 11:04	Toady One	Resolution	open => fixed
2014-07-22 11:04	Toady One	Assigned To	Dwarfu => Toady One
2014-07-24 23:41	Dwarfu	Sticky Issue	Yes => No
2014-07-27 11:12	4maskwolf	Issue End Monitor: 4maskwolf

Notes
(0025225) Untelligent (reporter) 2014-07-08 19:58	I have a handful of hostile migrants hanging around the edges of my map. When I send soldiers to them, they don't fight each other.

(0025622) Footkerchief (manager) 2014-07-10 16:57	JackBread posted this save at 0006986: http://dffd.wimbli.com/file.php?id=8845 [^]

(0025631) Archereon (reporter) 2014-07-10 17:23 edited on: 2014-07-10 17:24	Is it possible you're just being raided by bandits? If not, maybe the migrant selection algorithm is accidentally pulling bandits as valid immigrants? Also, goblins? I wasn't under the impression that the game was able to handle multi-race sites in fortress mode. Also, there's been at least one report of a dwarven siege occurring in 0.40.01; it may be that civilizations of the same race are no longer incapable of declaring war on each other.

(0025634) JackBread (reporter) 2014-07-10 17:35	The thing with my save is that the immigrants aren't actually hostile. They didn't do anything when I had a bunch of dwarves stand near them.

(0025661) ArmokGoB (reporter) 2014-07-10 20:04	Can confirm. First migrant wave was all hostile Dwarves. Save: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/87322559/HostileMigrants.zip [^]

(0025662) Footkerchief (manager) 2014-07-10 20:06	JackBread: I assumed that was from an unrelated issue with aggression, like 0006547.

(0025859) Arcvasti (reporter) 2014-07-11 15:21	Can confirm this still happens in 40.02. Attached save has several "hostile" migrants on the edge of the map. http://dffd.wimbli.com/file.php?id=8882 [^]

(0025865) Saram-61-97-kon (reporter) 2014-07-11 15:50	May related with this one?: http://www.bay12games.com/dwarves/mantisbt/view.php?id=7060 [^]

(0026116) Knight Otu (manager) 2014-07-13 06:12 edited on: 2014-07-13 08:59	Vakarias posted a save at 0007198: http://dffd.wimbli.com/file.php?id=8932 [^]

(0026184) Vakarias (reporter) 2014-07-13 12:11	http://dffd.wimbli.com/file.php?id=8945 [^] Managed to do it again when unretiring a retired fortress. I had triple checked beforehand that I was embarking with the exact same civ as I had started the fortress with, and all the original residents are 'hostile' but do nothing. Some migrants are hostile, others are as they are normally meant to be.

(0026398) Sivarty (reporter) 2014-07-14 18:28	Can confirm this is still happening in 0.40.03. Had a "hostile" dwarf tanner show up in first migrant wave and hang out at the edge of the map

(0026471) Sivarty (reporter) 2014-07-15 07:45	"Hostile" migrants will also bring pets, which interesting enough are not "hostile"

(0026622) clanl (reporter) 2014-07-16 06:52	You can also butcher all those pets they bring as none do have a friendly owner in your fortress.

(0026997) fourpotatoes (reporter) 2014-07-20 02:06 edited on: 2014-07-21 22:23	Since I was uploading it anyway for a different bug, here's another save: http://dffd.wimbli.com/file.php?id=9075 [^] I haven't tried killing them or even sent anyone over that way yet. They seem to be content to stand around in their corner. I did do some adventuring in this world before starting the fortress. Edit: I'm going to wait until I've seen this on 0.40.04 for a save, but I've had some members of the same migrant wave be good, upstanding dwarves and others hostile.

(0027043) Sivarty (reporter) 2014-07-20 12:44	Here is the forum discusion on this bug. http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=140689.0 [^]

(0027166) palu (reporter) 2014-07-21 17:41	I've got this. Haven't sent anyone to fight them yet. All various farmers. http://dffd.wimbli.com/file.php?id=9107 [^]

(0027213) Toady One (administrator) 2014-07-22 11:04	Looks like it was probably related to prior adventuring and some badly retained flags. Should be fixed for next time, including patching up old saves. Migrants that are patched up from old saves might act a little strange at first, since their inventory items were not processed properly on arrival.