0000344: Knockback/"propelled away by the force of the blow" only happens rarely (same with throwing creatures any distance)

(0000833)
opsneakie (reporter)
2010-04-04 02:32

I've seen creatures go flying since I have a hammerdwarf now, although the distance they flew was sibstantially reduced (around 5 tiles instead of 10-20+). I think this is partly design decision and partly just the way the new combat mechanics work.

Probably intentional

(0005056)
ElthMysterius (reporter)
2010-04-25 16:29

That said, try spawning a bronze collossus and a kobold in Arena, controlling the collossus, grabbing the kobold, and 'Throw'ing it. You're guaranteed to see it flying across the entire map and surviving.

(0009365)
Footkerchief (manager)
2010-06-30 07:56

Toady reduced it on purpose, but it was before he redid the weight system, so it may have gotten reduced more than he intended.

(0009523)
toybasher (reporter)
2010-07-02 08:44

Its been reduced too much in my oponion, now my legendery superhumanly strong hammerman still cannot send elves flying not even one tile.

(0009524)
smjjames (reporter)
2010-07-02 08:50
edited on: 2010-07-02 08:54

I did manage to see it once, with a BC hitting a fleshball while in magma. Never seen that before in .31 otherwise. It got propelled several tiles.

In case anybody is wondering what a fleshball is doing in magma, this is arena mode and .8 .

(0009656)
Footkerchief (manager)
2010-07-05 10:25

Reminder sent to: Toady One

Hey Toady -- another bug I suspect of being weight-related. I remember you made knockbacks less frequent after we talked about it during testing, and the balance seemed good at the time, but I think that happened prior to the mass/weight rewrites of March 1.

(0014179)
toybasher (reporter)
2010-11-23 09:35

Still happens,

By the way, even a "legendary superhumanly tough" Wresler and fighter can only throw a FOX one tile away, What happened to the haleriously funny ability to send elves flying into trees with hammers or throwing people off cliffs/into magma/into water?

(0020407)
d64 (reporter)
2012-02-21 12:57

I tested this now with 34.02, and a fight between a bronze colossus and a dingo pack did result in several long punts. This did not happen in the previous major version. I checked the reports that these were the result of blows, not throws. So I would say this looks like fixed.

It still takes the colossus a very long time to strangle a dingo to death, but that is another issue...

(0020409)
thvaz (reporter)
2012-02-21 13:06

My adventurer propelled a crab several tiles away in 34.01. I think it can only happen when there is a big difference in sizes between the opponents.

(0024534)
Footkerchief (manager)
2014-02-18 07:04

Okay, we'll call it fixed. Pleaser reopen this report or PM me on the forums if it's still a problem.

Issue History
Date Modified	Username	Field	Change
2010-04-03 19:53	Djohaal	New Issue
2010-04-04 02:32	opsneakie	Note Added: 0000833
2010-04-25 16:29	ElthMysterius	Note Added: 0005056
2010-06-30 07:56	Footkerchief	Note Added: 0009365
2010-06-30 07:56	Footkerchief	Relationship added	has duplicate 0002499
2010-06-30 07:57	Footkerchief	Summary	Combat - No flying enemies => "Propelled away by the force of the blow" only happens rarely
2010-07-02 08:44	toybasher	Note Added: 0009523
2010-07-02 08:50	smjjames	Note Added: 0009524
2010-07-02 08:54	smjjames	Note Edited: 0009524	View Revisions
2010-07-05 10:25	Footkerchief	Issue Monitored: Toady One
2010-07-05 10:25	Footkerchief	Note Added: 0009656
2010-08-15 16:36	Footkerchief	Relationship added	has duplicate 0001129
2010-11-23 09:35	toybasher	Note Added: 0014179
2011-03-04 16:34	Footkerchief	Summary	"Propelled away by the force of the blow" only happens rarely => Knockback/"propelled away by the force of the blow" only happens rarely
2011-03-04 16:37	Footkerchief	Relationship added	related to 0000033
2012-02-21 12:57	d64	Note Added: 0020407
2012-02-21 13:06	thvaz	Note Added: 0020409
2012-02-21 23:21	d64	Issue Monitored: d64
2012-02-26 07:47	Footkerchief	Relationship added	related to 0001118
2012-03-24 12:24	Hieronymous Alloy	Issue Monitored: Hieronymous Alloy
2012-03-27 12:27	Footkerchief	Summary	Knockback/"propelled away by the force of the blow" only happens rarely => Knockback/"propelled away by the force of the blow" only happens rarely (same with throwing creatures any distance)
2014-02-18 07:04	Footkerchief	Note Added: 0024534
2014-02-18 07:04	Footkerchief	Status	new => resolved
2014-02-18 07:04	Footkerchief	Fixed in Version	=> 0.34.01
2014-02-18 07:04	Footkerchief	Resolution	open => fixed
2014-02-18 07:04	Footkerchief	Assigned To	=> Toady One

Notes
(0000833) opsneakie (reporter) 2010-04-04 02:32	I've seen creatures go flying since I have a hammerdwarf now, although the distance they flew was sibstantially reduced (around 5 tiles instead of 10-20+). I think this is partly design decision and partly just the way the new combat mechanics work. Probably intentional

(0005056) ElthMysterius (reporter) 2010-04-25 16:29	That said, try spawning a bronze collossus and a kobold in Arena, controlling the collossus, grabbing the kobold, and 'Throw'ing it. You're guaranteed to see it flying across the entire map and surviving.

(0009365) Footkerchief (manager) 2010-06-30 07:56	Toady reduced it on purpose, but it was before he redid the weight system, so it may have gotten reduced more than he intended.

(0009523) toybasher (reporter) 2010-07-02 08:44	Its been reduced too much in my oponion, now my legendery superhumanly strong hammerman still cannot send elves flying not even one tile.

(0009524) smjjames (reporter) 2010-07-02 08:50 edited on: 2010-07-02 08:54	I did manage to see it once, with a BC hitting a fleshball while in magma. Never seen that before in .31 otherwise. It got propelled several tiles. In case anybody is wondering what a fleshball is doing in magma, this is arena mode and .8 .

(0009656) Footkerchief (manager) 2010-07-05 10:25	Reminder sent to: Toady One Hey Toady -- another bug I suspect of being weight-related. I remember you made knockbacks less frequent after we talked about it during testing, and the balance seemed good at the time, but I think that happened prior to the mass/weight rewrites of March 1.

(0014179) toybasher (reporter) 2010-11-23 09:35	Still happens, By the way, even a "legendary superhumanly tough" Wresler and fighter can only throw a FOX one tile away, What happened to the haleriously funny ability to send elves flying into trees with hammers or throwing people off cliffs/into magma/into water?

(0020407) d64 (reporter) 2012-02-21 12:57	I tested this now with 34.02, and a fight between a bronze colossus and a dingo pack did result in several long punts. This did not happen in the previous major version. I checked the reports that these were the result of blows, not throws. So I would say this looks like fixed. It still takes the colossus a very long time to strangle a dingo to death, but that is another issue...

(0020409) thvaz (reporter) 2012-02-21 13:06	My adventurer propelled a crab several tiles away in 34.01. I think it can only happen when there is a big difference in sizes between the opponents.

(0024534) Footkerchief (manager) 2014-02-18 07:04	Okay, we'll call it fixed. Pleaser reopen this report or PM me on the forums if it's still a problem.