0004367: Animals all try to graze from pasture's top left corner, starvation ensues

(0016693)
Footkerchief (manager)
2011-03-27 20:48
edited on: 2011-03-27 20:49

What type of animals? If they're very large ones, this is probably 0004113.

(0016697)
abadidea (reporter)
2011-03-27 21:27

All of them. I actually did have giraffes and yaks die recently, but the most recent death was a rabbit. Also, lots and LOTS of babies.

(0016699)
thvaz (reporter)
2011-03-27 23:19

It looks like you have lots of animals. They weren't overcrowding?

(0016706)
Kumquat (reporter)
2011-03-28 01:05
edited on: 2011-03-28 01:06

Animals not assigned to a pasture hang around in meeting area and starve to death.

Edit: this does not apply to pets. Presumably they 'get fed' by the owner.

(0016717)
abadidea (reporter)
2011-03-28 08:38

thvaz: There was an occasional kick-and-bite. The animals seem to WANT to stand on top of eachother no matter how much space there is. But it still seems like a bug that they die of starvation while there are dozens of grasses on the ground.

Kumquat: I was extremely meticulous about making sure they were ALL in pastures for the first few years of my fort. There are probably several babies running around unassigned now, but the carcasses are all *in* the pasture.

(0016738)
MaDeR Levap (reporter)
2011-03-28 15:27

It looks like two more bugs present, in fact:
1. Grazing is from upper left corner of pasture. Horribly gamey. Should be in random place in pasture.
2. Animals should try to get away first before starting to fight. They do not this at all. Just stand where they like and if by accident (or more likely first problem above) two animals are on same tile, well. Bite time.

(0016979)
nb4est (reporter)
2011-04-02 09:58

Same here. Animals eat only top half of a pasture. When left only one or two tiles of grass on top half, they start to fight between themselves over it. They sometimes do walk in lower half of pasture, but then would leave it for top half right away.

(0016991)
Kumquat (reporter)
2011-04-02 13:40
edited on: 2011-04-02 13:40

This looks like another side-effect of the typewriter-order grazing.

1. Animals keep eating and scarf off half the pasture.
2. Grass grows back onto the top left tile.
3. Hungry animals start walking toward the tile.
4. First animal that reaches the tile eats the grass.
5. The rest notice there is no grass, move back halfway across the pasture to reach the next totally uneaten grassy tile.
6. First animal to reach it eats the grass.
7. In the meantime, grass has grown back to the top, second-left tile.
8. go to step 3.

N. Animals that use more fodder to traverse back and forth in Y direction than they get from the rare bite starve to death.

(0017141)
abadidea (reporter)
2011-04-06 13:09

Kumquat: That makes perfect sense. I guess an annoying but functional workaround would be to have many small pastures.

(0017142)
kwieland (reporter)
2011-04-06 13:57

Am I the only one who gets lots of "duck bites dog" combat spam from this?

Issue History
Date Modified	Username	Field	Change
2011-03-27 20:39	abadidea	New Issue
2011-03-27 20:48	Footkerchief	Note Added: 0016693
2011-03-27 20:49	Footkerchief	Tag Attached: AWAITING UPDATE
2011-03-27 20:49	Footkerchief	Note Edited: 0016693	View Revisions
2011-03-27 20:49	Footkerchief	Relationship added	related to 0004113
2011-03-27 21:27	abadidea	Note Added: 0016697
2011-03-27 23:19	thvaz	Note Added: 0016699
2011-03-28 01:05	Kumquat	Note Added: 0016706
2011-03-28 01:06	Kumquat	Note Edited: 0016706	View Revisions
2011-03-28 08:38	abadidea	Note Added: 0016717
2011-03-28 15:27	MaDeR Levap	Note Added: 0016738
2011-04-01 20:28	nb4est	Issue Monitored: nb4est
2011-04-02 09:58	nb4est	Note Added: 0016979
2011-04-02 13:40	Kumquat	Note Added: 0016991
2011-04-02 13:40	Kumquat	Note Edited: 0016991	View Revisions
2011-04-02 13:50	Footkerchief	Relationship added	related to 0004366
2011-04-06 13:09	abadidea	Note Added: 0017141
2011-04-06 13:57	kwieland	Note Added: 0017142
2011-04-06 13:57	kwieland	Issue Monitored: kwieland
2014-01-20 18:55	Footkerchief	Tag Detached: AWAITING UPDATE
2014-01-20 18:55	Footkerchief	Summary	Animals die while still lots of grass in pasture => Animals all try to graze from pasture's top left corner, starvation ensues
2014-01-21 18:04	Footkerchief	Relationship added	related to 0001463
2014-07-21 22:02	Footkerchief	Relationship added	related to 0007554
2014-09-12 12:56	Toady One	Status	new => resolved
2014-09-12 12:56	Toady One	Fixed in Version	=> Next Version
2014-09-12 12:56	Toady One	Resolution	open => fixed
2014-09-12 12:56	Toady One	Assigned To	=> Toady One

Notes
(0016693) Footkerchief (manager) 2011-03-27 20:48 edited on: 2011-03-27 20:49	What type of animals? If they're very large ones, this is probably 0004113.

(0016697) abadidea (reporter) 2011-03-27 21:27	All of them. I actually did have giraffes and yaks die recently, but the most recent death was a rabbit. Also, lots and LOTS of babies.

(0016699) thvaz (reporter) 2011-03-27 23:19	It looks like you have lots of animals. They weren't overcrowding?

(0016706) Kumquat (reporter) 2011-03-28 01:05 edited on: 2011-03-28 01:06	Animals not assigned to a pasture hang around in meeting area and starve to death. Edit: this does not apply to pets. Presumably they 'get fed' by the owner.

(0016717) abadidea (reporter) 2011-03-28 08:38	thvaz: There was an occasional kick-and-bite. The animals seem to WANT to stand on top of eachother no matter how much space there is. But it still seems like a bug that they die of starvation while there are dozens of grasses on the ground. Kumquat: I was extremely meticulous about making sure they were ALL in pastures for the first few years of my fort. There are probably several babies running around unassigned now, but the carcasses are all in the pasture.

(0016738) MaDeR Levap (reporter) 2011-03-28 15:27	It looks like two more bugs present, in fact: 1. Grazing is from upper left corner of pasture. Horribly gamey. Should be in random place in pasture. 2. Animals should try to get away first before starting to fight. They do not this at all. Just stand where they like and if by accident (or more likely first problem above) two animals are on same tile, well. Bite time.

(0016979) nb4est (reporter) 2011-04-02 09:58	Same here. Animals eat only top half of a pasture. When left only one or two tiles of grass on top half, they start to fight between themselves over it. They sometimes do walk in lower half of pasture, but then would leave it for top half right away.

(0016991) Kumquat (reporter) 2011-04-02 13:40 edited on: 2011-04-02 13:40	This looks like another side-effect of the typewriter-order grazing. 1. Animals keep eating and scarf off half the pasture. 2. Grass grows back onto the top left tile. 3. Hungry animals start walking toward the tile. 4. First animal that reaches the tile eats the grass. 5. The rest notice there is no grass, move back halfway across the pasture to reach the next totally uneaten grassy tile. 6. First animal to reach it eats the grass. 7. In the meantime, grass has grown back to the top, second-left tile. 8. go to step 3. N. Animals that use more fodder to traverse back and forth in Y direction than they get from the rare bite starve to death.

(0017141) abadidea (reporter) 2011-04-06 13:09	Kumquat: That makes perfect sense. I guess an annoying but functional workaround would be to have many small pastures.

(0017142) kwieland (reporter) 2011-04-06 13:57	Am I the only one who gets lots of "duck bites dog" combat spam from this?